NVR vs Blue Iris

Hod Dee Phone gents! ......this HP Prodesk Sff has an Nvme drive!? and room for a spinner.....So this would work for a BI Pc....HP ProDesk 600 G4 SFF Intel Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 16GB DDR4 256GB NVMe + 1TB HDD
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HP ProDesk 600 G4 SFF Intel Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 16GB DDR4 256GB NVMe + 1TB HDD | eBay

Model: ProDesk 600 G4 SFF. Six (6) Cores, 12 Threads. See pictures for more details. No OS on either drive. CPU 3.2GHz base frequency, 4.6GHz max boost frequency.
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But its a bit on the higher end for price....but it's rockin the Gen 8 i7.
 
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fenderman said:
Consider that an i5-8500 is more powerful than an i7-6700 and can be had for about 300-350 see hp elitedesks.
Note that there is only space for a single 3.5 drive in the optiplex SFF size.
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I've been kicking myself in the ass for a while now for buying a OptiPlex not realizing the HP Elitedesk 800 G3 was out there when I put together my system.
 
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whoami ™ said:
I've been kicking myself in the ass for a while now for buying a OptiPlex not realizing the HP Elitedesk 800 G3 was out there when I put together my system.
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Yeah it looks like Hp has the better system for BI in this arena. Everything is shrinking. What they call a MT or Mini-Tower form factor in optiplex's in the last 3-4 years has only 1 3.5 bay and 2 2.5 bays...
The one i bought in August for my Buddy was a Dell Optiplex 3050 MT Desktop i5 6500 3.2GHz 1TB HDD 8GB DDR4 Win 10 Pro @ $267.00, but he's not running a BI system on it....(yet).
 
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Flintstone61 said:
Hod Dee Phone gents! ......this HP Prodesk Sff has an Nvme drive!? and room for a spinner.....So this would work for a BI Pc....HP ProDesk 600 G4 SFF Intel Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 16GB DDR4 256GB NVMe + 1TB HDD
www.ebay.com

HP ProDesk 600 G4 SFF Intel Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 16GB DDR4 256GB NVMe + 1TB HDD | eBay

Model: ProDesk 600 G4 SFF. Six (6) Cores, 12 Threads. See pictures for more details. No OS on either drive. CPU 3.2GHz base frequency, 4.6GHz max boost frequency.
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But its a bit on the higher end for price....but it's rockin the Gen 8 i7.
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I actually use a Pro400 G5 SFF with a I5-8600, SSD and 16G in it for my BlueIris. I was installing a ton of them, and got it for a great price.
I have a NVME drive for it but have not taken the time to install. Looking back, I should have got the MT case so I would have had
more room for drives. I had to make a jury rigged way to add a 5.25" purple in there. It has worked well over the last couple years. I
am always changing cameras around while testing new ones and fixing old ones. At the present I have 26 cameras from 1.3mp to 8pm,
with most being 2 and 4mp. With intel HA and sub streams enabled, I run from 12% to 20% CPU usage. I have a weather station running
on it that would save a little if I moved it to the server.

Before I retired, the corporation I worked for used mainly Dell, and they are comparable to the HP line, but a little harder to figure the
lower lines with the pro lines. If you can grab a pro line that has been on lease for 1-3 years, the prices are really reasonable.
 
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cousinjoe said:
Thoughts on this one? For not much more, it looks like you can get a new one right from Amazon (from the HP store):
HP had it marked down to $579 but sold out.

Amazon was $539, eBay I found for about $549.
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They really don't say what all is included with it Ram 0, Hard drive 0, you will have more tied up on guts.
I take it you want it for your personal PC?
It's way more then you need for Blueiris.
 
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From specs I read on that same model on HP/eBay it listed a stick of 8GB ram (3 slots open for additional) and a 256GB SSD with room for a second hard drive.

Yeah, this is still strictly for Blue Iris. I'm a mac guy and all set on personal computers.
 
If I was to do it all over again I'd buy this...

eBay: HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF i7 7700

All it needs is a NVMe M.2 for the OS (Samsung 970 EVO Plus), 2x WD Purple's, and another 8-16gb of RAM. Windows is free as long as the activate watermark doesn't bother you, or buy a key from the EU off eBay for $5. Only thing more you could ask for is a GEN4 M.2 slot. And maybe you'll get lucky and it'll have the Nvidia GPU in there even tho its not listed. Had it happen to me before buying a Thinkpad off eBay.

A lot of times with decommissioned computers without HDD's you install Windows and it already has a key associated with the CPU so it activates automatically.
 
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If I was to do it all over again I'd buy this...

eBay: HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF i7 7700
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Thanks! That definitely helps with my search.

I’ve been going back and forth searching for “HP EliteDesk 800 G4 i5-8500” and “HP ProDesk 600 G4 i5-8500” on eBay. I originally searched for i7’s thinking they were more powerful but was informed the i5-8500 was a better processor.
 
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cousinjoe said:
Thanks! That definitely helps with my search.

I’ve been going back and forth searching for “HP EliteDesk 800 G4 i5-8500” and “HP ProDesk 600 G4 i5-8500” on eBay. I originally searched for i7’s thinking they were more powerful but was informed the i5-8500 was a better processor.
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There was a huge performance boost going from 7th gen to 8th gen. That is why the 8th gen i5 is more powerful than a 7th gen i7. An 8th gen i7-8700 processor will obviously be faster than both of those.
 
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cousinjoe said:
Thanks! That definitely helps with my search.

I’ve been going back and forth searching for “HP EliteDesk 800 G4 i5-8500” and “HP ProDesk 600 G4 i5-8500” on eBay. I originally searched for i7’s thinking they were more powerful but was informed the i5-8500 was a better processor.
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looks to me like 6 cores 6 threads @4.10ghz (i5) vs. 4 cores 8 threads @ 4.5ghz (i7) what am i missing
edit: oh thats the i7 K

so 4.2ghz
 
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There was a huge performance boost going from 7th gen to 8th gen. That is why the 8th gen i5 is more powerful than a 7th gen i7. An 8th gen i7-8700 processor will obviously be faster than both of those.
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This might be a dumb question but how do I know which gen the processor is while searching? I know they list the gen of the computers (G3 & G4) but wasn’t looking for processor generation, only “i5-8500”.
 
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This might be a dumb question but how do I know which gen the processor is while searching? I know they list the gen of the computers (G3 & G4) but wasn’t looking for processor generation, only “i5-8500”.
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The 8 in the 8500 signifies eighth gen. 9500 would be 9th. 7500 would be seventh. Same with the i7. 8700 is 8th gen and so on.
 
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User benchmarks gives the i5 8500 a 9% overall speed increase vs. i7 7700

Yea, i guess. its almost like a i5 6500 vs i7 7700. i7 7700 has 12% on i5 6500, I would have thought more throughput with 8 threads would account for more. if in the same price range I'd go out of my way for the i5 8500
 
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User benchmarks gives the i5 8500 a 9% overall speed increase vs. i7 7700

Yea, i guess. its almost like a i5 6500 vs i7 7700. i7 7700 has 12% on i5 6500, I would have thought more throughput with 8 threads would account for more. if in the same price range I'd go out of my way for the i5 8500
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Something went wrong with the math. The 7700 has over 50 percent on the 6500.
 
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