I did give in and ordered one of the pan/tilt listing the other day for $400 +shipping +tax (the base price went up $50 since then). It should be here tomorrow evening and I will be sure to report back. No PoE support is a bummer (24v AC power only) but this is a case where beggars can't be choosers.
The PTZ thermal hybrid arrived last night. Nothing appears to be defective, and it meets expectations based on the official spec sheet. Here's a full post about it: DS-2TD4237-10/V2 (Thermal Hybrid PTZ)
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