ctgoldwing
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That's a scary number of deaths from the flu. I tried to see where that came from. The closest I found was the CDC:
Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?
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I think by 2018 they mean the 2017-2018 season.
CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in U.S., highest death toll in 40 years
The U.S. government estimates that 80,000 Americans died of flu and its complications last winter — the disease's highest death toll in at least four decades.
www.statnews.com
I got it that year despite having been vaccinated, but Tamiflu knocked it right down within 36 hours. My whole family caught it from me, so everybody took the antiviral. Without antivirals this would have been much worse of a flu season.
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Update: CDC downwardly revised the estimates of flu death for that year. See here:
www.cdc.gov
The final report is here:
www.cdc.gov
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Archived Estimated Influenza Illnesses, Medical visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States — 2017–2018 influenza season | CDC
Links to key resources on the burden of influenza - CDC
The final report is here:
Estimated Flu-Related Illnesses, Medical Visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States — 2017–2018 Flu Season | CDC
Links to key resources on the burden of influenza - CDC
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Hospitals have not been overrun.
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New york was on the hairy edge of being over run particularly NYC. Without distancing it would have been much worse.
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But not overrun--plenty of evidence to support that (that ship sailed). There's plenty about this virus that's unknown--no need to add unnecessary hyperbole to bolster biased arguments.
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Read the first paragraph... And remember when you do. That is with a vaccine.
National Press Conference Kicks Off 2018-2019 Flu Vaccination Campaign | CDC
On September 27, 2018, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases (NFID) along with other public health and medical groups kicked off the 2018-2019 flu vaccine campaign at a press conference held at the National Press Club in...
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Not even close.
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Yes sorry, I used the wrong word again, just reread some articles and I should have said overwhelmed.
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rocky500
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So 2,2 million deaths in America is acceptable to you to have kept the economy open?
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From various dates:
First one from Fix News ... Sorry, Fox News, in early April so maybe you will believe it:
Samaritan's Purse NYC field hospital already treating 12 patients, nurse says: 'We are giving it 110 percent'
The Samaritan's Purse charity is already treating 12 coronavirus patients just one day after opening its field hospital in New York City's Central Park, nurse practitioner Shelly Kelly told Bill Hemmer Reports" Thursday.
www.foxnews.com
"New York City currently has close to 52,000 cases of COVID-19 and many hospitals have surpassed bed capacities and are short on necessary medical supplies such as protective N95 masks for medical workers and ventilators for ailing patients. To date, close to 2,000 New Yorkers have died of the virus"
Similar reports from other dates and other sources. They had to set up a field hospital, for gosh sakes...
Hospitals Nearing ICU Bed Limits as COVID-19 Surges in NYC
New York City is in a race against time to set up enough beds for the sickest coronavirus patients. As of Thursday, 307 ICU beds were available.
thecity.nyc
NYC hospitals, still at capacity, see signs of a plateau in COVID-19 cases
Dr. Ernest Patti, senior emergency medicine physician at St. Barnabas Hospital in New York, talks with Rachel Maddow about whether the pace of dealing with COVID-19 patients is changing at all, and the steep learning curve he and his colleagues have faced.
Inside a Brooklyn hospital that is overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients and deaths | CNN
At Brookdale University Hospital Medical Center in New York, the ICU is at capacity, patient beds line the hallways of the emergency department, and the morgue is overflowing.
www.cnn.com
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beepsilver
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Contrary to common sense Rocky. 2.2 million deaths was a model prediction--if everyone in the U.S. took absolutely no control measures. And back to your "overrun vs overwhelmed" semantics...please do us all a favor and don't intentionally post fake news.
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Okay here is an article
Trump-backed anti-malaria drug for coronavirus finds no benefit, more deaths: study
The anti-malaria drug touted by President Trump showed zero benefits for coronavirus patients in a nationwide study — and even caused more deaths among those given the drug versus those given…
nypost.com
The study was only Black Males? That is interesting.
And they might be HIS advisors now but the were also Obama's advisors. They are career government.
But the report still says not fully conclusive.
But at the time he made those statements as I have stated before he was going on info he had been given and if you honestly listen he was just being hopeful. But that night the Looney left went wild and turned the issue into what it is today.
I can just about hear the Jubilation in leftist news rooms tonight
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I never said that.
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From various dates:
First one from Fix News ... Sorry, Fox News, in early April so maybe you will believe it:
Samaritan's Purse NYC field hospital already treating 12 patients, nurse says: 'We are giving it 110 percent'
The Samaritan's Purse charity is already treating 12 coronavirus patients just one day after opening its field hospital in New York City's Central Park, nurse practitioner Shelly Kelly told Bill Hemmer Reports" Thursday.
"New York City currently has close to 52,000 cases of COVID-19 and many hospitals have surpassed bed capacities and are short on necessary medical supplies such as protective N95 masks for medical workers and ventilators for ailing patients. To date, close to 2,000 New Yorkers have died of the virus"
Similar reports from other dates and other sources. They had to set up a field hospital, for gosh sakes...
Hospitals Nearing ICU Bed Limits as COVID-19 Surges in NYC
New York City is in a race against time to set up enough beds for the sickest coronavirus patients. As of Thursday, 307 ICU beds were available.
NYC hospitals, still at capacity, see signs of a plateau in COVID-19 cases
Dr. Ernest Patti, senior emergency medicine physician at St. Barnabas Hospital in New York, talks with Rachel Maddow about whether the pace of dealing with COVID-19 patients is changing at all, and the steep learning curve he and his colleagues have faced.www.msnbc.com
Inside a Brooklyn hospital that is overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients and deaths | CNN
At Brookdale University Hospital Medical Center in New York, the ICU is at capacity, patient beds line the hallways of the emergency department, and the morgue is overflowing.
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CBS Caught Pushing Fake News
CBS used footage from an Italian hospital to attempt to depict conditions caused by COVID-19 in New York City. Click here to see this latest installment of fake news!
newsradiowrva.radio.com
Where did the USNS Comfort go?
Be sure to read the comments on this one too: FAKE NEWS ALERT: NBC News Knowingly Lies About "Coronavirus Hoax" Story
For the past 4 years, the mainstream U.S. media has been lying, sensationalizing, misguiding, misdirecting, omitting, etc., to suit their Anti-Trump agenda--giving us every reason to be suspicious. I have no doubt a few NYC hospitals may have been near capacity at times, and the field hospitals constructed for overflow were hardly used--clearly a failure of NY and NYC leadership.
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Hmmm I don't see your post but I'm pretty sure you asked for attribution when I said his top med advisers were advising against his 'hunch'.Okay here is an article
Trump-backed anti-malaria drug for coronavirus finds no benefit, more deaths: study
The anti-malaria drug touted by President Trump showed zero benefits for coronavirus patients in a nationwide study — and even caused more deaths among those given the drug versus those given…
Here is a quote from the article and following is the link to it:
A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases recommends against doctors using a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for the treatment of COVID-19 patients because of potential toxicities.
"The combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was associated with QTc prolongation in patients with COVID-19," the panel said.
QTc prolongation increases the risk of sudden cardiac death.
The recommendation against their combined use would seem to fly in the face of comments made by President Trump suggesting the combination might be helpful. On March 21, for example, the president described them in a tweet as having a "real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine."
You may not like trump the hunch's statement but there it is.
NIH Panel Recommends Against Drug Combination Promoted By Trump For COVID-19
The group of experts, assembled under the agency run by Dr. Anthony Fauci, warns that using a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin could result in potential toxicities.
www.npr.org
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It’s just insane their base eats it up. And would defend it as just “depicting”.CBS Caught Pushing Fake News
CBS used footage from an Italian hospital to attempt to depict conditions caused by COVID-19 in New York City. Click here to see this latest installment of fake news!
Where did the USNS Comfort go?
Be sure to read the comments on this one too: FAKE NEWS ALERT: NBC News Knowingly Lies About "Coronavirus Hoax" Story
For the past 4 years, the mainstream U.S. media has been lying, sensationalizing, misguiding, misdirecting, omitting, etc., to suit their Anti-Trump agenda--giving us every reason to be suspicious. I have no doubt a few NYC hospitals may have been near capacity at times, and the field hospitals constructed for overflow were hardly used--clearly a failure of NY and NYC leadership.
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I posted the actual video of Trumps briefing unedited back a few post.
Like I says he was just being hopeful. Had it been Obama it would not have raised an eyebrow. They saw the opportunity on this one. They bet on it not working, that is why they hammered it in the news the very first night. And have hammered it ever since. And I guarantee you that that report is a big jubilation for them tonight can’t wait to see the news
however, I don’t have time right now but there have been other studies out in the last few days in other countries also that have said that it has proven promising. Nothing is a cure all at this point with this virus. No one ever said that hydroxychloroquine was a cure-all just something that might help you recover or help fight it off.
Are you happy about this report?
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Sandy Cortez's deleted tweet...
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