Replace current PC with SFF PC

[fenderman]

IDK, my electric prices are through the roof, especially in winter, extra multipliers due to electric heat. the Mini PC's are $200 shipped with windows. I actually expect to make that up over the life cycle short of premature failure.

You are improperly comparing power consumption of your current rig to the replacement rather than a more modern pc that is 2-4 times more powerful and way more efficient.
You also need to pay for windows unless you intend to steal it. You leave no headroom for AI and also dont have room for proper storage on the mini pc's.
Finally I would think twice about these china no name mini pc's...https://www.notebookcheck.net/Chinese-mini-PC-gets-caught-for-shipping-with-factory-installed-spyware.801946.0.html
Who knows that they are doing in the bios...

 

[dmich135]

You are improperly comparing power consumption of your current rig to the replacement rather than a more modern pc that is 2-4 times more powerful and way more efficient.
You also need to pay for windows unless you intend to steal it. You leave no headroom for AI and also dont have room for proper storage on the mini pc's.
Finally I would think twice about these china no name mini pc's...https://www.notebookcheck.net/Chinese-mini-PC-gets-caught-for-shipping-with-factory-installed-spyware.801946.0.html
Who knows that they are doing in the bios...

Right, all good points. I was thinking a MSI cube. 1 NVME and 1 SATA 2.5, probably the only case that will fit a 15mm thick 4-5TB and no spyware. Other options are an ASUS or Asrock industrial. I have a hard time quantifying with out a reference point, and all I have is my current rig to compare/get an idea, that's why I'm here. I doubt I will ever get into the AI stuff, haven't so far and very happy with BI. All the CPU's I mentioned are modern, only thing more modern is 14th gen. Do you have an at the wall measurement for one of those mini HP's?

 

[fenderman]

Right, all good points. I was thinking a MSI cube. 1 NVME and 1 SATA 2.5, probably the only case that will fit a 15mm thick 4-5TB and no spyware. Other options are an ASUS or Asrock industrial. I have a hard time quantifying with out a reference point, and all I have is my current rig to compare/get an idea, that's why I'm here. I doubt I will ever get into the AI stuff, haven't so far and very happy with BI. All the CPU's I mentioned are modern, only thing more modern is 14th gen. Do you have an at the wall measurement for one of those mini HP's?

You mention modern cpu's but they are very weak...sometimes you need to learn the hard way...
CPAI is one of the best parts of BI right now.

 

[dmich135]

I guess so, though I'm trying not to. If you could point out a specific modal of PC and have a real world reading to go with it, that would definitely help me get a better idea. Just seems to not make sense in my case to move to a more powerful system when I'm using less than 10% CPU on my less powerful system. Things have to get modernized every once in a while just because failure is only a matter of time. seems like it would be very inefficient to run a over sized PSU/system for 1% CPU usage. The fact the OP is still running a 4770 in 2024 tells me the load one it doesn't justify getting the top tire i9. Was just harmlessly point some very power efficient CPU's/cost effective boards that probably not on most peoples radars. Thanks.

 

[fenderman]

I guess so, though I'm trying not to. If you could point out a specific modal of PC and have a real world reading to go with it, that would definitely help me get a better idea. Just seems to not make sense in my case to move to a more powerful system when I'm using less than 10% CPU on my less powerful system. Things have to get modernized every once in a while just because failure is only a matter of time. seems like it would be very inefficient to run a over sized PSU/system for 1% CPU usage. The fact the OP is still running a 4770 in 2024 tells me the load one it doesn't justify getting the top tire i9. Was just harmlessly point some very power efficient CPU's/cost effective boards that probably not on most peoples radars. Thanks.

There are quite a few threads on desktop processors and cpus....
Your decision is made. I am simply pointing it out for others...Buying a system for 200 bux + 100-150 for windows to save 30w at the plug (where are you going to store the data?) is insane. At 9 cents a kwh (based on the location in your profile) your would be "saving" 25 bux a year.
Buying even a 100 dollar i5-8500 desktop would lower the spread to maybe a 15w difference. But again a waste of money.

 

[tigerwillow1]

I'm in the middle of putting together a BI/CPAI system on an HP SFF i7-8700 system with one SSD and one 3-1/2 inch drive. With only win 10 running it draws 15 watts. When running BI/CPAI with 16 cameras at about 6 Kbps each, it initially pulled about 50 watts. Setting the CPU maximum setting to 40%, the power draw is in the low 30 watts, and it only occasionally hits the CPU cycle ceiling. I don't have any CPU comparison to offer, just this single data point.

 

[fenderman]

I'm in the middle of putting together a BI/CPAI system on an HP SFF i7-8700 system with one SSD and one 3-1/2 inch drive. With only win 10 running it draws 15 watts. When running BI/CPAI with 16 cameras at about 6 Kbps each, it initially pulled about 50 watts. Setting the CPU maximum setting to 40%, the power draw is in the low 30 watts, and it only occasionally hits the CPU cycle ceiling. I don't have any CPU comparison to offer, just this single data point.

This is a different scenario with way more cpu consumption..

 

[LBJ]

Any thoughts on this one. I'm replacing a 10 year old i7-2600 system with Win 10 pro. BI and 8 camera. I use a USB 4TB disk and keep my footage for a few weeks that way.

is there anything better that I should be going for ??

HP EliteDesk 800G5 SFF i5-9500

HP EliteDesk 800G5 SFF i5-9500

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