System Recommendations for 19xCameras

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I'm quite new to Blue Iris, after first installing it at my own house with completely new hardware 5x4mp Cameras, I was quite impressed.

I am now in the process of upgrading the CCTV system at my parents house.

The old system:
10x Hikvision 1.3MP Fixed Focus Domes - DS-2CD2112-I

Currently - (Half Way until upgrading)
8x Hikvision 1.3MP Fixed Focus Domes - DS-2CD2112-I (2 are disconnected)
3x Hikvision 4mp 1.4 fstop 4-12mm Turrets - HIK-2CD1H41WDIZ
1x Dahua 4mp 2.0 fstop 4-12mm Bullets - IPC-HFW4431R-Z

and the current computer is struggling, no movement rests at 85% movement shoots up to 100% I'm guessing its dropping frames.

To finish of the build we are looking at
8x Dahua 4mp IPC-HFW4431R-Z
3x Hikvision 4mp HIK-2CD1H41WDIZ
8x Hikvision 1.3mp DS-2CD2112-I

Total Cameras = 19
Total Megapixels = 55megapixels @20fps

I prefer to keep everything running at approx 4mp 20fps ~4mbit VBR quality. Using Blueiris for Motion Detection, no overlay, direct to disk etc.

I'm looking at buying this computer
Dell Optiplex 9010 SFF i7 3770 QC 3.4Ghz 8GB Ram 500GB HDD Win 10 PC Desktop | eBay

Which is a i7-3770 with 8gb of ram.

Does this look like it will handle it?
I don't think we will grow this system much more. I may add another Dahua 4mp camera in the late future.
I am happy to add ram to 16gb if need as its cheap.
It will be used at a house on a large property.
The most that usually will get triggered at once will be 4 cameras simultaneously, and the absolute most would be 8.
 

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22 cameras average 4MP/12fps w i7-6700K, 16GB ram: 35% cpu load
 

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I've decided against buying a new system and am waiting for a new CPU to arrive.
I'm at 11 cameras and have upgraded quite a few cameras so the system is sitting at
3x DS-2CD2112-I (1080p/15fps)
8 x 4mp (4mp / 15fps)
all with BI motion detection, one with zoning on it (not sure if this adds to CPU usage much) no GI overlay, all direct to disk running at @85% stable, spikes to 95% if there is a lot of motion.

I can't remember the exact model of CPU, its a Dual Core Xeon, the one order will be a quad core similar to current series i5.
I have another 4x4mp to install on order.
 

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I've decided against buying a new system and am waiting for a new CPU to arrive.
I'm at 11 cameras and have upgraded quite a few cameras so the system is sitting at
3x DS-2CD2112-I (1080p/15fps)
8 x 4mp (4mp / 15fps)
all with BI motion detection, one with zoning on it (not sure if this adds to CPU usage much) no GI overlay, all direct to disk running at @85% stable, spikes to 95% if there is a lot of motion.

I can't remember the exact model of CPU, its a Dual Core Xeon, the one order will be a quad core similar to current series i5.
I have another 4x4mp to install on order.
Put a killawat meter on that..see how much money you are paying your electric company instead of your pocket..
 

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Yes I am worried about that, it's been a temporary thing so used an old computer that I had lying around, still experimenting with Blue Iris I'm quite new to using it all.

I'm hoping the new CPU will lower the usage down to below 40% there is negligible difference in the power usage between the CPU in the Dell I posted and CPU I bought (Xeon E3-1271 v3).
 

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When many of us start we want ro run our cameras at a high frame rates. This is quite common and quite natural. Many of us quickly learn that lowering frame rates can result significantly lower cpu cycles. I run BI on an i7-3770 with 21 2MP and 4MP cameras, and my average cpu usage is approximately 40%.
 

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Hi Q that seems like quite a similar CPU (powerwise) to what I've purchased which sounds promising the i7-3770 seems to score 9770 on the Passmark Tests and the one I'm 10089
PassMark - Intel Xeon E3-1271 v3 @ 3.60GHz - Price performance comparison

I do agree about the FPS now that I've lowered it down to 15fps it seems to be still okay and not much point raising it back to 20fps.

Unfortunately I'm inheriting a system I installed 5 years ago though, if I was building the system from ground up I would have purchased a more appropriate PC for NVR tasks.
 

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Hi Q that seems like quite a similar CPU (powerwise) to what I've purchased which sounds promising the i7-3770 seems to score 9770 on the Passmark Tests and the one I'm 10089
PassMark - Intel Xeon E3-1271 v3 @ 3.60GHz - Price performance comparison

I do agree about the FPS now that I've lowered it down to 15fps it seems to be still okay and not much point raising it back to 20fps.

Unfortunately I'm inheriting a system I installed 5 years ago though, if I was building the system from ground up I would have purchased a more appropriate PC for NVR tasks.
except that his i7 supports hardware acceleration using intel hd with quicksync...your processor does not..big difference..
 

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I dont think I was rushing anything, this is a computer that I already had, ie. before installing Blue Iris, built for an entirely different purpose. Yes a newer computer, or one with different hardware would have been better suited to Blue Iris, but it would have been at least double the price of what I paid for just a new CPU.
 

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I know bro...I simply had a yearning to post a Charlie Chan aphorism and that was the best I could come up with.
 

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The latest BI upgrade (4.6.4.3) made HUGE difference in cpu load for me. I have 12 Hik's 5- 3mp and 7-4 mp, all at 15 fps, d2d. HWA and my i7-4470 runs at 7%-8%. I can live with that.
 

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After 42etus post, I updated and enabled the feature on all 11 active cameras. Prior usage was 85% rested during no motion. Update put it down to 18-35%. Remote viewing doesnt seem as bad as before, around 50-60%. This is on the old Xeon Dual Core.

I have another system, low power 35W micro pc, running at a smaller house running i5-6600T, 5x4mp Camera's BI motion detection, BI zoning, the cameras are all maxed out in resolution at 20fps. Dropped cpu usage from about 40-50% to about 8-10%.
 

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I'm quite new to Blue Iris, after first installing it at my own house with completely new hardware 5x4mp Cameras, I was quite impressed.


Does this look like it will handle it?
I don't think we will grow this system much more. I may add another Dahua 4mp camera in the late future.
I am happy to add ram to 16gb if need as its cheap.
It will be used at a house on a large property.
The most that usually will get triggered at once will be 4 cameras simultaneously, and the absolute most would be 8.

You can get an idea from the users here on what their BI Systems can do.
 
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