The best cameras out there!

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  1. Kawboy12R

    Kawboy12R Known around here

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    I got this in my email for some reason and thought some of you guys might like the laugh. We must be wasting our money on cams that cost more than $18. Looks like they're using Trump-like rhetoric to pimp their cams as well...

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  2. Dodutils

    Dodutils Pulling my weight

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    Talking about $18 camera I just ordered Two models one Digoo 1.3MP (works P2P but also provide local RTSP) and also one Xiaomi 2MP $22 (this one is hackable to get rid of Cloud slave system) both having bidirectional audio, SDCard slot, 5V USB powered, only WiFi, the Xiaomi claims to have smoke and CO detector but for the price it will be just for hack & fun ;-)

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    Will be interesting to see some day\night motion video samples from those.
    Will you post once you play around with them a bit?

    I could use a couple of unobtrusive cheap-o cams for a few places non-critical critter watching in and outside the house.
    Either of those have IR?
     
  4. Dodutils

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    Yes but i'll receive them in only 3 weeks I guess so you can check for some youtube review, for example this one with Indian accent :)
     
  5. Defog

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    Haarr!! lol. I was really expecting a hardcore hard to understand accent. The guy is actually pretty good.
    Have yours arrived yet? Whats the verdict on them?
     
  6. Dodutils

    Dodutils Pulling my weight

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    Received only Xiaomi for now, works well, installed the "hacked" firmware to get rid of all Xiaomi "could only" interface (meaning you could only use this camera thru Smartphone Xiaomi dedicated APP aberly english translated, sending things to chinese Cloud), now using it as standard RTSP camera, have access to the embedded ARM Linux, filling exactly my front view with it's 110° for the price I am happy.
     
  7. bp2008

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    Do you suppose an $18 camera with $140-160 worth of lighting is as good as a Dahua 2MP Starlight? :) (never mind the ongoing costs of running like 100+ watts of LED lighting)
     
  8. Dodutils

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    I never supposed antyhing nor said anything about it
     
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    Dodutils Pulling my weight

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    And today I received the second camera a Digoo-M1Q even cheaper than the Xiaomi that do its first configuration thru sound emitted by smartphone app, back in 80's with my ZX81/ZX Spectrum/Oric Atmos/Commodre 64 audio tapes :)

    Lesser wide angle than the Xiaomi, Smarpthone app well translated into english (better than Xiaomi with still a lot of chinese), bi directional audio is better, provided USB cable is much shorter than Xiaomi and no USB power converter provided have to use some 1A
     
  10. Prinler

    Prinler Getting the hang of it

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    @Dodutils im interested about the X cam! Can you link me some pages about the firmware? Maybe a link to this camera where YOU purchased it? I see some on eBay but Id like to see where you ended up.
    Should work in Blue Iris after its hacked I bet?
     
  11. Dodutils

    Dodutils Pulling my weight

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    I bought Xiaomi on banggood and you can find the hacked firmware easy just googling "fanghack", then it will provide RTSP_TCP stream you can change the RTSP resolution and bandwidth by changing the parameters that launch the RTSP server, here is the field view, my front wall is 30m large and camera is 10m from it, camera claims it is 110° and it is the exact view field I needed ;-) the Digoo M1Q provide native ONVIF / RTSP_UDP stream no need to hack anything, IR at night is better than the Xiaomi (because of more IR leds I guess) but they both are not outdoor cameras, but you can leave them outdoor if protected from the rain (I have an USB Logitech C520 outdoor for a year now and it still works fine)
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  12. Prinler

    Prinler Getting the hang of it

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    Wow so beautiful, you are truly blessed. Id show you my house but I live near death valley and its baron here with no trees or green. LOL

    im still new, can this be recorded on an NVR?
     
  13. Dodutils

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    Yeah sure with RTSP stream, for now I am testing with Contacam (freeware) and NetcamStudio (free up to 2 cams), but they are WiFi only so you may need some WiFi extender or a wired WiFi router outside the house that will "grab" all outdoor cameras and send the network back inside the house thru the ethernet wire of the wifi router, all depend on how many cameras you have, how thick are your walls what resolution and bandwith you set... for 18-20€ each cam it is fun, you can test/play, teardown, change the lens for difference view angle without fear, and depending your requirements they could be sufficient but of course their are far to be as good build quality, night view mode capabilities and full featured firmware as ~150$ cameras like Dahua or HikVision many people talk about on this forum.
     
  14. Prinler

    Prinler Getting the hang of it

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    Purchased. Thanks man!
     
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    Just an example to show how Digoo M1Q 1.3MP performs day/night, and daylight (compared to previously posted Xiaomi example) it is far below Xiaomi quality but at night it is the opposite (may be because it's 1.3MP not 2MP) but for indoor (this camera is not for outdoor) this 18$ camera is fun the bi directionnal audio is good (whenever it's talkie-walkie unsynchronous mode), the smartphone APP is better than the Xiamomi (perosnnal opinion) I think the bad video is because you cannot set the video stream bandwidth compression like I did on hacked's firmware with the Xiaomi.

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  16. Dodutils

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    Just find out how to hack the Digoo M1Q :) only had to find the RX/TX TTL debug console inside the camera... hacking around to find what is interesting, finally find out some XML config file with H264 settings inside, changed the bitrate and here is the result

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    Very cool!

    Image is surprisingly decent
     
  18. Dodutils

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    So dumb I am I didn't even tried/thought about doing a simple telnet on this camera and calling netstat I saw this Digoo has Telnetd so I tried it... typed root login and ... no password needed ... no more teardown I lost time but it was fun and Teardown is my second name ;-)
     
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    Hum... played too much with the video_sc1135.xml xonfig file, Digoo got bootloop :-( but fortunately I made a .bak of config file in same folder and as the camera stay a few seconds "accessible" before bootloop I had time to copy/paste a "cp /ncp/config/video_sc1153.xml.bak /ncp/config/video_sc1153.xml" to restore original version and problem is fixed.

    btw : U-Boot on this camera can be breaked/stoppped pressing any key (on some other cameras it is CTRL+U) but this give access to U-Boot commands only not the files inside the linux file system
     
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  20. checho

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    @Dodutils Did I get this right, with the hack you mentioned, one could get the Xiaomi cam working with Blue Iris ?
     
  21. Dodutils

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    Yes full RTSP and you can set resolution/compression as you want, I actually use it with Contacam and NetcamStudio so I see no reason it may not work with Blue Iris unless you cannot define "custom" RTSP camera as Xiaomi will not be part of pre-defined list.
     
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    Dodutils, I got my camera and even tho i set it up as mainland china it still says it can only be used in mainland china. Any ideas? The mobile device has location services always off.
     
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    You know what, I just received 2 other Xiaomi today and one over two say the same once configured !

    I am investigating... is it this message you get ?
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    Yes, thats the one!
    ""Cameras produced after 11 Nov has a region ban while using firmware newer than "L" version""
    Link to someones fix
     
  25. Dodutils

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    This fix is for Yi cam not MiFang
     
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    PancakeBimmer Young grasshopper

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    Sorry for bumping old thread...

    @Dodutils Do you remember if digoo camera had pads or place to solder power connector?
    Edit: I would rather solder female barrel connector than reply or micro-usb. I know I can solder to micro-usb pads, but previous experience with soldering those is not great heh
     
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    So do your question still need me to answer ? why would you need to solder power connector ?
     
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    PancakeBimmer Young grasshopper

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    I was hoping that there are bigger pads or via holes to solder +5 and GND to, and not just the pads that are used for micro-USB connector. I have soldered wires to micro usb connector pads before but not always was successful. Therefore, having bigger pads or separate via holes to solder connector would be easier.
    The reason for soldering connector is that camera fit's specs and price requirements for project very well, there is just a pretty high chance that usb connector can be damaged fairly quickly in my specific application. Having female barrel pigtail soldered to power pads would let me route that cable from the backside where it won't be damaged or accessed easily.

    Judging by pictures I found online there are no extra pads or via holes to solder power to.

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  29. Dodutils

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    whenever soldering is thin what you need is to make the pigtail steady so it cannot move so you'll have to make a hole and glue it