Tp link switch and dahua camera

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Hey all! I got my camera in and hooked up the router to switch and switch to camera. The camera positioned itself but, I can’t get the camera to show up on the app. I’ve scanned the sn for a ptz camera and entered a password. It’s just not working. Do I need to get the router to recognize the router or camera? Idk.
 

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If its a Dahua camera, I believe the default IP Address should be 192.168.1.108. The DHCP of the router has to be giving out the 192.168.1.X address, otherwise the router won't see the camera.

I had this happen to me on my Dahua NVR and had to change the IP Address of the NVR to the 192.168.0.X subnet that my router was giving out...
 

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Re-read what I posted in your other thread.

Your IP address subnet isn't the same as the camera. You need to get the camera on your LAN address.

 

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Re-read what I posted in your other thread.

Your IP address subnet isn't the same as the camera. You need to get the camera on your LAN address.

Ok, I just did that. I changed it on my router that my switch is plugged in to that my camera is plugged in to. Ill see what happens.
 

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Sweet. I’m in. However, the ip ptz 192.168.1.108 just has a blank screen. The app is working fine but the image is in black and white. Bear with me I’ve got a 5 week old to contend with. I’ve got a 512 sd card to install tomorrow.
thank you @wittaj.
 

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Is the TP link switch 802.3at compliant?
The pdf associated with the product page says that it is. It’s probably a 50 yard run to the camera including elevation.

TP-Link TL-SG1005P V2 or later | 5 Port Gigabit PoE Switch | 4 PoE+ Ports @65W | Desktop | Plug & Play | Sturdy Metal w/ Shielded Ports | Fanless | Limited Lifetime Protection | QoS & IGMP Snooping
 
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Are you using Internet Explorer - this thing is sensitive to browser and needs IE. Not Edge or Chrome with IE tab.
I even thought about getting a “cheap” computer just to run it. Right now, I’m just using an iOS device. I can view and control/record with it. Just not using its full potential I think.
 

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All you are doing now is using default/auto settings. You need to get into camera and adjust the settings to your field of view.
 

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Now in terms of getting the most out of the camera, here is my "standard" post that many use as a start for dialing in day and night that helps get the clean captures. You need to get off of default. These are done within the camera GUI thru a web browser.

Start with:

H264
8192 bitrate
CBR
15FPS
15 iframes

Every field of view is different, but I have found you need contrast to usually be 6-8 higher than the brightness number at night.

We want the ability to freeze frame capture a clean image from the video at night, and that is only done with a shutter of 1/60 or faster. At night, default/auto may be on 1/12s shutter or worse to make the image bright.

In my opinion, shutter (exposure) and gain are the two most important parameters and then base the others off of it. Shutter is more important than FPS. It is the shutter speed that prevents motion blur, not FPS. 15 FPS is more than enough for surveillance cameras as we are not producing Hollywood movies. Match iframes to FPS. 15FPS is all that is usually needed.

Many people do not realize there is manual shutter that lets you adjust shutter and gain and a shutter priority that only lets you adjust shutter speed but not gain. The higher the gain, the bigger the noise and see-through ghosting start to appear because the noise is amplified. Most people select shutter priority and run a faster shutter than they should because it is likely being done at 100 gain, so it is actually defeating their purpose of a faster shutter.

Go into shutter settings and change to manual shutter and start with custom shutter as ms and change to 0-8.3ms and gain 0-50 (night) and 0-4ms exposure and 0-30 gain (day)for starters. Auto could have a shutter speed of 100ms or more with a gain at 100 and shutter priority could result in gain up at 100 which will contribute to significant ghosting and that blinding white you will get from the infrared or white light.

Now what you will notice immediately at night is that your image gets A LOT darker. That faster the shutter, the more light that is needed. But it is a balance. The nice bright night static image results in Casper blur and ghost during motion LOL. What do we want, a nice static image or a clean image when there is motion introduced to the scene?

In the daytime, if it is still too bright, then drop the 4ms down to 3ms then 2ms, etc. You have to play with it for your field of view.

Then at night, if it is too dark, then start adding ms to the time. Go to 10ms, 12ms, etc. until you find what you feel is acceptable as an image. Then have someone walk around and see if you can get a clean shot. Try not to go above 16.67ms (but certainly not above 30ms) as that tends to be the point where blur starts to occur. Conversely, if it is still bright, then drop down in time to get a faster shutter.

You can also adjust brightness and contrast to improve the image.

You can also add some gain to brighten the image - but the higher the gain, the more ghosting you get. Some cameras can go to 70 or so before it is an issue and some can't go over 50.

But adjusting those two settings will have the biggest impact. The next one is noise reduction. Want to keep that as low as possible. Depending on the amount of light you have, you might be able to get down to 40 or so at night (again camera dependent) and 20-30 during the day, but take it as low as you can before it gets too noisy. Again this one is a balance as well. Too smooth and no noise can result in soft images and contribute to blur.

Do not use backlight features until you have exhausted every other parameter setting. And if you do have to use backlight, take it down as low as possible.

After every setting adjustment, have someone walk around outside and see if you can freeze-frame to get a clean image. If not, keep changing until you do. Clean motion pictures are what we are after, not a clean static image.
 

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This forum has been more knowledgeable than anything else I’ve been able to find online. I’ve been in a lot. This one doesn’t have any of the BS and seeming just people who are genuinely interested in helping each other. Thank you all for what you do.
 

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Explorer is baked into Windows still. Simply go to the search bar bottom left and type in Explorer and it will come up.
 

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Nice. I got everything wired up and low and behold, my connections work. I just need to set it up now. Pretty cool picture and nice zoom.
 

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Explorer is baked into Windows still. Simply go to the search bar bottom left and type in Explorer and it will come up.
While I’m waiting on my computer to show up, I used the DMSS app to set a recording schedule using motion as a trigger 24/7 (0-23:59). It’s not saving any recording unless I save it locally to my phone. It recognizes my SD card with 477gb of free space out of 512. Does any of this sound right without IE?

I think I got that figured out.
 
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Now in terms of getting the most out of the camera, here is my "standard" post that many use as a start for dialing in day and night that helps get the clean captures. You need to get off of default. These are done within the camera GUI thru a web browser.

Start with:

H264
8192 bitrate
CBR
15FPS
15 iframes

Every field of view is different, but I have found you need contrast to usually be 6-8 higher than the brightness number at night.

We want the ability to freeze frame capture a clean image from the video at night, and that is only done with a shutter of 1/60 or faster. At night, default/auto may be on 1/12s shutter or worse to make the image bright.

In my opinion, shutter (exposure) and gain are the two most important parameters and then base the others off of it. Shutter is more important than FPS. It is the shutter speed that prevents motion blur, not FPS. 15 FPS is more than enough for surveillance cameras as we are not producing Hollywood movies. Match iframes to FPS. 15FPS is all that is usually needed.

Many people do not realize there is manual shutter that lets you adjust shutter and gain and a shutter priority that only lets you adjust shutter speed but not gain. The higher the gain, the bigger the noise and see-through ghosting start to appear because the noise is amplified. Most people select shutter priority and run a faster shutter than they should because it is likely being done at 100 gain, so it is actually defeating their purpose of a faster shutter.

Go into shutter settings and change to manual shutter and start with custom shutter as ms and change to 0-8.3ms and gain 0-50 (night) and 0-4ms exposure and 0-30 gain (day)for starters. Auto could have a shutter speed of 100ms or more with a gain at 100 and shutter priority could result in gain up at 100 which will contribute to significant ghosting and that blinding white you will get from the infrared or white light.

Now what you will notice immediately at night is that your image gets A LOT darker. That faster the shutter, the more light that is needed. But it is a balance. The nice bright night static image results in Casper blur and ghost during motion LOL. What do we want, a nice static image or a clean image when there is motion introduced to the scene?

In the daytime, if it is still too bright, then drop the 4ms down to 3ms then 2ms, etc. You have to play with it for your field of view.

Then at night, if it is too dark, then start adding ms to the time. Go to 10ms, 12ms, etc. until you find what you feel is acceptable as an image. Then have someone walk around and see if you can get a clean shot. Try not to go above 16.67ms (but certainly not above 30ms) as that tends to be the point where blur starts to occur. Conversely, if it is still bright, then drop down in time to get a faster shutter.

You can also adjust brightness and contrast to improve the image.

You can also add some gain to brighten the image - but the higher the gain, the more ghosting you get. Some cameras can go to 70 or so before it is an issue and some can't go over 50.

But adjusting those two settings will have the biggest impact. The next one is noise reduction. Want to keep that as low as possible. Depending on the amount of light you have, you might be able to get down to 40 or so at night (again camera dependent) and 20-30 during the day, but take it as low as you can before it gets too noisy. Again this one is a balance as well. Too smooth and no noise can result in soft images and contribute to blur.

Do not use backlight features until you have exhausted every other parameter setting. And if you do have to use backlight, take it down as low as possible.

After every setting adjustment, have someone walk around outside and see if you can freeze-frame to get a clean image. If not, keep changing until you do. Clean motion pictures are what we are after, not a clean static image.
I don’t see a shutter section under camera. Would it be listed as something else? Also, I changed the FPS to 15/15 but the bit rate changes automatically to a “custom” selection.
 

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It is best to setup the recording schedule to the SD card in the camera GUI using IE.

Shutter is under the exposure setting.

Select the custom drop down on bitrate so you can change it to what you want.
 

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I turned on the smart AI and set the sensitivity to high while looking for cars and humans. I’ve had about 6 cars go by. Is there a way for it to recognize movement better? Distance is about 75 yards and a combination from left to right and right to left. Bright and sunny.
 
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