US Elections (& Politics) :)

bigredfish

Known around here
Joined
Sep 5, 2016
Messages
17,019
Reaction score
47,484
Location
Floriduh
@bigredfish @Sybertiger interesting article and responce. I've always assumed America wants to remain No. 1 but some posts back with @Smilingreen i came to the realization that might not be the case so i wish to pose a question for you all that is obviously not easily answered, multifaceted and emotive given the current climate.

Would the America people be happier with a position less than No. 1 in the global order?
Many of us would like to see the US as the dominant player on the world stage, Not so many years ago I would have told you that was the view of 80%+ of the population now I fear we are in the minority. The problem, like the Byzantine article, is that a large portion of the population have gotten fat, dumb and lazy and no longer support or even comprehend the effort and values required to lead. Others like the terminally stupid and the socialists (lazy fucks as that is what true socialists are, they want free shit without effort) truly believe that destroying the US will somehow "make things better". And still others want the US crippled for their own personal gain.

So while Im a vote for America #1, that doesnt mean I'm in favor of or support every stupid or immoral thing corrupt politicians and others get our country into. Such as Ukraine.
 
Last edited:

Griswalduk

Known around here
Joined
Mar 30, 2021
Messages
1,088
Reaction score
2,043
Location
Uk
As more Americans wake up and put a stop to the current attempt by the hijacked Democratic Party to tear down our country and instill Socialism/Communism, and we restore the intent of our Forefathers set forth in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, the United States of America will always be #1, like it or not. I personally don't care if we are #1 or not, as long as we and #1 are not corrupt shithole countries like a lot of the world has proven to be.

I'll bet we will never be #2 to the UK.
100%
 

Griswalduk

Known around here
Joined
Mar 30, 2021
Messages
1,088
Reaction score
2,043
Location
Uk
Many of us would like to see the US as the dominant player on the world stage, Not so may years ago I would have told you that was the view of 80%+ of the population now I fear we are in the minority. The problem, like the Byzantine article, is that a large portion of the population have gotten fat, dumb and lazy and no longer support or even comprehend the effort and values required to lead. Others like the terminally stupid and the socialists (lazy fucks as that is what true socialists are, they want free shit without effort) truly believe that destroying the US will somehow "make things better". And still others want the US crippled for their own personal gain.

So while Im a vote for America #1, that doesnt mean I'm in favor of or support every stupid or immoral thing corrupt politicians and others get our country into. Such as Ukraine.
High 5
 

Griswalduk

Known around here
Joined
Mar 30, 2021
Messages
1,088
Reaction score
2,043
Location
Uk
As more Americans wake up and put a stop to the current attempt by the hijacked Democratic Party to tear down our country and instill Socialism/Communism, and we restore the intent of our Forefathers set forth in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, the United States of America will always be #1, like it or not. I personally don't care if we are #1 or not, as long as we and #1 are not corrupt shithole countries like a lot of the world has proven to be.

I'll bet we will never be #2 to the UK.
America No. 1 box ticked with observation that UK is contesting for a podium finish ( just like it's being doing for awhile )
 
Last edited:

Griswalduk

Known around here
Joined
Mar 30, 2021
Messages
1,088
Reaction score
2,043
Location
Uk
Many of us would like to see the US as the dominant player on the world stage, Not so many years ago I would have told you that was the view of 80%+ of the population now I fear we are in the minority. The problem, like the Byzantine article, is that a large portion of the population have gotten fat, dumb and lazy and no longer support or even comprehend the effort and values required to lead. Others like the terminally stupid and the socialists (lazy fucks as that is what true socialists are, they want free shit without effort) truly believe that destroying the US will somehow "make things better". And still others want the US crippled for their own personal gain.

So while Im a vote for America #1, that doesnt mean I'm in favor of or support every stupid or immoral thing corrupt politicians and others get our country into. Such as Ukraine.
Love your thinking and i think you've nailed it. Caveats aside America no.1 box ticked
 

Griswalduk

Known around here
Joined
Mar 30, 2021
Messages
1,088
Reaction score
2,043
Location
Uk
You kind of have me lost at what your getting at, I don't have a ton of time to read all the posts here these days.
That's politics for ya lol :rofl:

Would the America people be happier with a position less than No. 1 in the global order?

Gathering opinion and took the liberty of assuming youd be for America No. 1. Correct me if wrong
 
Last edited:

wittaj

IPCT Contributor
Joined
Apr 28, 2019
Messages
24,447
Reaction score
47,571
Location
USA
 

Oceanslider

Known around here
Joined
Dec 1, 2019
Messages
6,906
Reaction score
23,601
Location
Southern California, USA
That's politics for ya lol :rofl:

Would the America people be happier with a position less than No. 1 in the global order?

Gathering opinion and took the liberty of assuming youd be for America No. 1. Correct me if wrong
The greatest thing about America politically was the Protestant Christian faith of our forefathers which created our Constitution and Bill Of Rights, without which, neither of those would exist.
 

Ssayer

BIT Beta Team
Joined
Jan 5, 2016
Messages
19,582
Reaction score
70,740
Location
SE Michigan USA
“You Can’t Cancel Me”


by Margaret Anna Alice



You can’t cancel me because I don’t belong to you.
I’m not on your side; I’m not on any side.
I’m not a member of any party, club, or group.
I’m not a joiner, I’m not a follower,
I’m not a demographic for your target market.

I may quote or reference someone you disagree with;
I may quote or reference someone I disagree with.

You can’t smear me because We know you are liars,
confabulators, compromised traitors to truth.
You are owned by psychopathic corporations, oligarchs,
and technocrats—and your own complicit cowardice.

I seek wisdom, truth, integrity, and honesty
in whatever forms they come.
I applaud heterodox thinking, an open mind,
humor, humility, courage, and understanding.
I deplore hatred, fear, rage, biases, and envy,
corruption, avarice, and homicidal policies.

I encourage reevaluating, reconsidering,
revisiting, rethinking, and recalibrating.
I discourage bitterness, resentment,
laziness, and self-inflicted ignorance.

I don’t watch, read, or listen to your
pundits, papers, and propaganda;
I don’t watch, read, or listen to their
pundits, papers, and propaganda.

We are not an Us and Them.
The only Them is They, who
have made We an Us and Them.
Keep thinking, keep questioning,
keep resisting, keep loving,
and together, We can expose,
dethrone, and cancel They.
 
Top