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Jessie.slimer said:
They hate the country and system that allows them to do this protesting. Irony.
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Reminds me of a Fox News reporter a couple of years ago, interviewing students at a Texas college campus. Probably 90% said they'd sign a petition to repeal the First Amendment so as to not protect people from "....saying bad things about others ." (irony = 1st amendment protects the right to petition). :facepalm:

See Right to petition in the United States

EDIT: changed my text's "appeal" to "repeal"
 
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TonyR said:
Reminds me of a Fox News reporter a couple of years ago, interviewing students at a Texas college campus. Probably 90% said they'd sign a petition to repeal the First Amendment so as to not protect people from "....saying bad things about others ." (irony = 1st amendment protects the right to petition). :facepalm:

See Right to petition in the United States

EDIT: changed my text's "appeal" to "repeal"
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. "

Abridge:
LAW: curtail (a right or privilege).​
 
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Today is primary day here in the Great Nanny State and for the first time in my life, and I'm 71 and have voted in every election since I was 18, I feel like my vote doesn't count at all.

Commissar Murphy decreed a "mail in election" but also said limited polling places would be open. To me, that implied that regular voting procedures would be used along with some extra precautions due to CCP virus. Turns out I was wrong. We got there at about 11:15 and there was a line of people, socially distanced and properly masked, standing outside the building and we got in line. Maybe a total of 15 people, not counting us. Progress was at a snails pace and, of course, the one person out, one person in rule was applied. Maximum was three voters in the building at a time.

I finally got in to vote at about 12:30. The line had increased and was now over 200 feet long and easily 25-30 people long. When I got inside I found out why progress was at a snails pace. There was one voting machine for use only by disabled or blind people. The rest of us, after checking in, got to fill out a paper ballot that was an exact match to what had been mailed and a statement card attesting to our identity and eligibility to vote. After filling out the ballot and attesting document the ballot got sealed in a provided envelope and presented to a poll worker who reviewed the attesting document then placed the ballot in a bag, with one bag designated for each party, Republican and Democrat.

My objective in going to a polling place was to avoid the paper ballot/mail-in style of voting because I simply don't trust the people handling the ballots and doing the counting. If I had some money, lots of money, I'd be suing Commissar Murphy for violating the Constitution regarding voting rights. Talk about "suppressing the vote", plus. ultimately, he gets to control exactly how those votes are counted and how many ballots are "found" at some later date. Then again he famously said, and I quote, "The Bill of Rights is above my pay grade".

Bottom line, to me, is that here in New Jersey the Constitution and bill of Rights no longer apply and have no meaning. I fear what the General Election will look like in November, this Primary is a practice run for vote tinkering/fraud.
 
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Jessie.slimer said:
I wish they would split us into 2 states, as it is mostly Crook County and Chicago that is the problem. The rest of us have to pay for their spending problems.
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We call the problem areas Wayne County and Detroit and yes, we get to bail them out. Aren't we lucky?
 
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Nice and short. I did not know how the National Anthem began being sung at sporting events. Never really thought about it. Now with some news media reporting that it is time to stop the practice, this gives historical and social importance to making sure it continues.

 
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Nice
 
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...and may God bless America.

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That's a great video and very interesting history, but it is history and, today, history isn't important anymore. After my experience today and everything else that's going on I think that kind of pride has left this country. Now, an upraised fist has become the National Symbol.
 
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The problem is in numbers, how many of us are actually remaining? (I was going to say "left" but don't want that connotation associated with me.)
 
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I think quite a few, but true its getting smaller.

(caught myself before I went down the rabbit hole of demographics and birthrates and immigration from socialist countries, its a long conversation that would be taken out of context by some)

But I DO still beleive there's an overwhelming majority that dont want to see the country going the way it is.
 
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sebastiantombs said:
I think that kind of pride has left this country
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I understand where you are coming from. But we are inundated by MSM that has an agenda and that agenda is primarily focused on getting conservatives out of power. I am not really sure why though. But a while ago the MSM stopped reporting facts and began giving opinions purported to be facts. I think it started to happen around the time Clinton was having a cigar (have a cigar, you're gonna go far).

One of the things that really frosts my cranberry bogs is that someone will post a story, say the Post, and it is virtually all opinion with a few facts thrown in to make it look accurate and a lot of facts left out so their spin looks legitimate. And then everyone else will write about that incident like they are covering it and have researched it. But buried in the article it will state something like "...as reported by the Post..." and they will then elaborate out the wazoo putting even more spin on it. Now it looks like it is being reported by so many outlets that it HAS to be true, right?

Now social media amplifies everything. It makes small groups appear to be huge because the same thing is repeated over and over again. There is no accountability. Say anything you want. No one can disprove it and the 'Fact Checkers' are biased enough to either somehow support that point of view or just ignore it.

Conservatives, by their nature, don't make the noise that the other point of view makes, so it appears they are small in numbers. I also think that he majority of Americans are not far left or far right but are in the middle and are at least fair minded and honest. At least I hope that is how it works.

So what happened to you today? The voting experience, I take it?
 
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bigredfish said:
I think quite a few, but true its getting smaller.
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Well I do know of one guy who has moved from more center to the left to the point I really no longer want to talk to him. But in all fairness, this happened after he moved from Houston to Portland.
 
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The fundamental attractions of the left can be compelling to many

  • Hypocrisy is not only acceptable but encouraged
  • Lack of personal responsibility. It MUST be someone else's fault
  • Lack of accountability for one's actions.
  • Free shit
 
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Yeah, the voting thing really bummed me out. NJ is a "blue" state but I live in, what used to be, a solid "red" zone. Now we have a touchy feely Congressmanperson and the Republican Party put up two candidates with very questionable pasts and ethics. I couldn't vote for either of them on top of the questionable voting method. It feels like the whole thing a big sham.

The must be somebody else's fault thing is so true. I watch "The Five" every day and yesterday I was amazed at how small a hoop a guy the size of Juan Williams can jump through to blame the police for the current violence and murder rates in the Democratic controlled cities.
 
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samplenhold said:
Well I do know of one guy who has moved from more center to the left to the point I really no longer want to talk to him. But in all fairness, this happened after he moved from Houston to Portland.
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I lived and worked in NorCal in the Silicon Valley '76 to '04, a span of almost 29 years. During that time, it was said by many that the newest arriving Oregonians and Washingtonians were displaced Californians that were too far to the left even for California, if you can believe that. My former B.I.L. worked for the phone co. in Kent, WA and said he was shunned for a time by co-workers when they learned he was from CA. But then again, that was over 15 years ago......an eon in the realm of political climate change.

What hasn't changed is the hypocrisy of the left, as many of those that felt that way about him were, most likely, former Californicators themselves. :(
 
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