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FYI - many houses / apartments in the USA are wood framed .. with stucco .. I believe this to be the type of construction of that apartment .. so significant danger issues ..
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FYI - many houses / apartments in the USA are wood framed .. with stucco .. I believe this to be the type of construction of that apartment .. so significant danger issues ..
I am sure this varies by state and in Texas the homeowner/renter probably didn't face any charges.
I am sure there are some areas that until the door is breached, the homeowner would be charged for discharging a firearm in this manner?
And potentially a case of his camera being held against him if he lived in a state where that shooting would be deemed illegal.
I am sure there are some areas that until the door is breached, the homeowner would be charged for discharging a firearm in this manner?
And potentially a case of his camera being held against him if he lived in a state where that shooting would be deemed illegal.
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I grew up with wood framed houses in Canada. Now everything where I live is brick, block or concrete.
Assumed it to be a block or cement wall due to the state and the fact that it's an apartment building. Not sure about Texas but in Ontario all structures over 3 stories (I believe...could be four or five) can't be wood frame.
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I imagine it would also depend on if they accidentally shot / killed a neighbor. Many states make my day laws have a duty to retreat.
I mean, he could have answered his doorbell "bullshit motherfucker the cops are on the way" instead of telling them he wasn't home since he knew from experience that bldg maintenance wouldn't change the filter.
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I think he wanted to see how far along the Fuck Around and Find Out curve they wanted to go! lol
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iirc 3 stories can be wood framed in many parts of the USA .. often now the 1st or 1st and 2nd floors are make of concrete / steel .. and the upper condo / apartment section = wood framed .. lower section either parking or retail ( for mixed use zoning )
I have seen some testing w/ hollow points and their velocity & penetrability after travelling through sheetrock alone is significantly reduced. Not sure if he was actually using HP's but just another reason that hollow points are so important as they transfer nearly all of their energy to the first target they hit
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Whereas I don't disagree, that may pose an issue if shooting actually through your door. Again a peep hole solution in the middle of the door might be the answer along with ballistic protection in the rest of the door.
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Found even cheaper at Temu (free shipping), two pieces for the price of one. The mounting screws are perpendicular to the door kicking force, making it more secure. You may install two (mid-high/mid-low) for stronger resistant.
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Yes. They work well. Suggest using an impact driver to set the screws.Inexpensive door security lock. Anyone tested?
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If you want to stop people coming through the door you need a steel reinforced door with multipoint loicking all the way around the frame. Pretty much anything less than this and they're either coming through the doorway or through the door itself.
We see it with burglaries in the UK. Multipoint locking doors are pretty much standard in the UK now (albeit low security ones, not the ones I'm talking about). UK Doors have a normal latch by the handle and then another 4 bolts up the frame of the door handle side. However, burglars either kick the upvc centre panels out and come through the door, defeat the lock (importance of having a good anti-snap lock design of UK 3 star diamond quality), or break the whole door down breaking the locks, rare as it's noisy but can be done especially with specialist spreader such as the police use.
IF you're in a really crime ridden area, then I recommend getting a high security door with 3 star diamond lock. They look like this and cost around £1.4K in the UK plus fitting with a few sensible extra upgrades / extras:
I am surprised in the US that from Police programes, almost everyone has such flimsy doors with poor quality single locking point locks. Most doors seem to be wooden panelled, not even solid or with large panes of single glazed glass not toughened. Many US doors seem to be able to be opened often with a single kick. In the UK even against our standard doors, the Police have to resort to rams and even hydraulic spreaders to get in. Against level 5 doors, they have to use the windows!
Either way, if you don't want someone kicking their way through you want a steel reinforced door and multipoint high security locking.
I personally wouldn't have a letter box either but I don't think that's an issue in the US as you seem to use mailbox's 1/2 way down the garden.
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For comparison with US situation, this is a typical standard factory fitted UK locking system -this is my back door - note mulitpoint locking with both hooks and bolts. Also on the hinge side there are usually some passive wedge shapes that fit into recesses in the door frame to reinforce the hinges when the door is closed. The door frame is anchor bolted at multiple points into the brickwork.
I'd say probably 90% of UK doors are like this now. This is my door (albeit mine has added 3 star diamond locks (internal in the door so can't be seen).
I really am surprised the US is so far behind the UK with this as usually you guys are ahead in most things:
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Frame with locking recesses for bolts and hooks:
Glass is beaded internally so it can't be removed. Obviously if in a high risk area, you might consider smaller glass panes but most don't break the glass as crawling through broken glass leaves blood and thus dna not to mention you cannot unlock the door by breaking the glass and reaching inside (unless you leave a key in which is stupid!) and the glass being double glazed isn't easy to break and requires tools.
I'd say probably 90% of UK doors are like this now. This is my door (albeit mine has added 3 star diamond locks (internal in the door so can't be seen).
I really am surprised the US is so far behind the UK with this as usually you guys are ahead in most things:
Door:
Frame with locking recesses for bolts and hooks:
Glass is beaded internally so it can't be removed. Obviously if in a high risk area, you might consider smaller glass panes but most don't break the glass as crawling through broken glass leaves blood and thus dna not to mention you cannot unlock the door by breaking the glass and reaching inside (unless you leave a key in which is stupid!) and the glass being double glazed isn't easy to break and requires tools.
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Yes, we're behind in our door security hardware but ahead in our personal security hardware....our right to bear arms.
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So they could just break out a window if they really wanted to get in. The reality is that anything short of bulletproof glass or exterior bars covering the windows won't stop a determined burglar.
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Yeah. But breaking double glazing isn't easy as the air gap absorbs shock. You could pickup a steel chair and throw it at the window as hard as you could and it would bounce off. There are tools that will do it though and a nail is supposed to do it also, although I did try this whilst breaking up can old damaged unit and despite a compromised air gap and thus cushioning, I found it very difficult with a nail and lump hammer to break the air outer pane and thus air gap to enable me to break the main glass panes. Needless to say, very noisy as well.
You can buy anti-break films to retrofit to downstairs glazing (or up if you want), that act a bit like the films in car windscreens and hold the glass together making it difficult o break though.
I dare say, anyone of real worth would probably just get some of this:
Unbreakable Glass | Burglary Proof Glass | High Security Glass | Type Of Glass
Unbreakable Glass | Burglary Proof Glass | High Security Glass | Type Of Glass
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I’ve seen where a burglar used a sawzall reciprocating saw to cut out a square of the wall adjacent to the door.
One of the nice things about living in Florida is that our house is built with concrete filled, concrete blocks and we have hurricane impact windows and doors. Also, our doors open out which makes them nearly impossible to break in with 3 sides of door contact.
One of the nice things about living in Florida is that our house is built with concrete filled, concrete blocks and we have hurricane impact windows and doors. Also, our doors open out which makes them nearly impossible to break in with 3 sides of door contact.
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Yeah in the UK double brick with cavity. Would take some time and probably a Stihl saw and diamond blade.