i did order a couple cams from 123security & they have the red/white box - i''ll get a pic up soon
also, i found 123security's "company" page where they say "Authorized dealers, like us, offer peace of mind" so they say they are an authorized dealer for their LINE CARD => 123securityproducts.com/manufacturer/index - including hikvision
i emailed with a sales person there for a quote on 20 cams. she said 2 or 20 it's the same price, but then emailed me the quote which was a few bucks off the website price. for the things i'm looking to buy, they have the best prices.
i'm looking for more comments about buying & dealing with returns/warranty than anything. if they are a legit dealer, they process returns to hikvision etc for people buying from them so i'd like to hear if anyone had to do this & their experience - thanks.