Who here uses a Mac (all Apple devices in general), and why? Seriously...

Here I was standing in the yard in 2007 with some LG flip phone, and a Palm Pilot in my pocket,
when my Brother walks up and swipes right with " Cover Flow" on all his albums on an iPhone.
And then he snaps a picture and texts it to his wife. All in like 5-10 seconds. It took that long just to type HI on a text on my flip phone.
Now here was a text user interface that made sense to me.
Everything else since was a copy.
I bought one with my tax return 6 months later.
I tried to convince my Lawn Jock buddy to get one for his addresses on his lawn routes. He went cheap and got some Droid with a detachable battery and some kinda Memory card for the storage.
His user experience and my user experience in the truck, convinced him to get his 1st iphone in late 2008.
Droids have come a long way, but an iPhone is like an extension of my body, a useful tool that is my companion.

I like Windows over mac.
I fooled around with Linux Distros every few years to see if things had gotten stupid simple for a DOS guy.
They work fine for everyday email, and web browsing, but i never took a deep dive.
 
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Arjun said:
What's the point of an overly-powered iPad when you can't even deploy macOS on it?
What's the point of fancy animations on iPhone and you can potentially increase productivity if you delete the fluff and get to the point? On my Samsung Android device, I can customize the animation times; and it makes the whole user experience very snappy versus an iPhone, where it feels like it is buffering 24/7.
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Are you really looking for why people use a mac? Or is that just a cover so you can rant as to why you don't like them? I'm not sure what the woke theme of macos is. My main computer is an M1 macbook pro. My main hobby computer for xlights and lightburn is an M4 mac mini that replaced an m1 mac mini. My work computer is a pc so I'm stuck with winblows 10. It's a leased laptop leased by the state so there are few customization options available. No 3rd party software allowed. I don't care about colors in the file manager. But I am concerned with tabs. winblows finally caught up to macos in that area.
 
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Are you really looking for why people use a mac? Or is that just a cover so you can rant as to why you don't like them? I'm not sure what the woke theme of macos is. My main computer is an M1 macbook pro. My main hobby computer for xlights and lightburn is an M4 mac mini that replaced an m1 mac mini. My work computer is a pc so I'm stuck with winblows 10. It's a leased laptop leased by the state so there are few customization options available. No 3rd party software allowed. I don't care about colors in the file manager. But I am concerned with tabs. winblows finally caught up to macos in that area.
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By woke, I was referring to how the general users are given no choice but to accept the user interface as normal despite the fact that it needs work that Apple does not seem to want to acknowledge
 
Arjun said:
By woke, I was referring to how the general users are given no choice but to accept the user interface as normal despite the fact that it needs work that Apple does not seem to want to acknowledge
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You may as well start a similar thread on:
PlayStation vs Switch
AutoCAD vs Microstation
Bluray vs HD DVD
Carlson vs Trimble (eff you Leica)
LORAN vs GPS
VHS vs Beta

BTW, one of my first calculators was advertised as being able to run the Space Shuttle! Had a printer and a strip reader!
 
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Our work allowed us to select a PC or Mac or Linux workstation maybe 15 years ago. I had a Redhat station to do actual work and Windows box to edit documents and email. About 10 years ago, one guy went Mac and we all followed suit. It integrates SO much better with Linux workstations out of the box. You can open XWindows from the terminal editor, ssh in and out. You can edit and use almost any app you can on windows. Once you get used to the interface, it is better (although switching from anything to something new is frustrating).

There are a couple of apps you can't run. Visio is a big one for me. And some games aren't available. Windows is still the king of gaming.

And their new hardware rocks.
 
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Arjun said:
By woke, I was referring to how the general users are given no choice but to accept the user interface as normal despite the fact that it needs work that Apple does not seem to want to acknowledge
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That's a bit vague. And I'm not sure how that fits under woke. Maybe I've just been using macs for so long that most of the interface seems to make sense. It all seems pretty intuitive.
 
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That's a bit vague. And I'm not sure how that fits under woke. Maybe I've just been using macs for so long that most of the interface seems to make sense. It all seems pretty intuitive.
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It seems the biggest divide was also part of their original marketing strategies. Kinda left/right brain artist/engineer kinda spli.
 
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My wife won't use anything but Apples. She says they're more intuitive.

I used Macs for work as a tv editor in the 2010s. The rental houses carried nothing else. They were solid machines and the os was perhaps more reliable in the Windows Vista era. Anyway, everyone in Hollywood used them for production. About 2013, I was talking to a guy at a post-production / effects studio, who told me they were moving to PCs because they needed the fastest machines they could get. At the time, we lost a lot of time to inputting footage and rendering it.

I don't know if the fast Apple silicon chips reversed the trend, as I retired soon after, but PCs are so fast now, and Windows 10 was
so stable, I doubt macs still have a monopoly in media production.
 
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My wife won't use anything but Apples. She says they're more intuitive.
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Anything that you "know" well is going to be intuitive. That said, Apple is NOT intuitive for the uninitiated like myself. Even something as simple as starting an application is hard on an Apple (if that app isn't listed in the shortcuts at the bottom of the screen). It's certainly not "intuitive" for a non- Apple user. Apple puts "form" over functionality many time. Obviously this was the way Steve Jobs looked at things, but this has caused Apple to design GUIs and menu systems that look beautiful, but don't always show the most intuitive information. They emphasize simple/clean GUIs with limited information which means you really have to dig sometimes to find things.

Furthermore, Apple purposely makes it harder to use non-Apple software on their computers. For example, Apple blocks foundational/basic system functionality (like sound, or network, etc) on their computers BY DEFAULT for any software that isn't Apple. For example, I had to troubleshoot an audio problem with a High School Band's audio system and it turns out that Apple blocks basic things like sound from working out of the box. So the non-Apple DAW they were using didn't have "permissions" to use audio and therefore none of the tracks were playing properly. Logic Pro has the audio permission allowed by default, but not Reaper or any other DAW not produced by Apple. Now Apple will say that it is a "security" feature when in fact it is just Apple making it more difficult to use non-Apple software. So when a person tries Reaper and it doesn't work right, but Logic Pro seems to work correctly, many times a person is just going to throw in the towel and end up using Logic Pro.

Let me just say that I hate Apple product with a passion. It's been lot of experiences just like this that has caused my hatred to grow to the point where it is today.
 
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Remember when they did the I'm a mac / I'm a PC ads? The PC was a clumsy but well-meaning bumbler? Now that's Apple. Except the well-meaning part.
 
SIR VEYOR said:
It seems the biggest divide was also part of their original marketing strategies. Kinda left/right brain artist/engineer kinda spli.
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All I know is I'm an engineer in IT and can barely draw a stick figure but I use a Mac :idk:

But I agree that I think there marketing in the past was pushing that.
 
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Anything that you "know" well is going to be intuitive. That said, Apple is NOT intuitive for the uninitiated like myself. Even something as simple as starting an application is hard on an Apple (if that app isn't listed in the shortcuts at the bottom of the screen). It's certainly not "intuitive" for a non- Apple user. Apple puts "form" over functionality many time. Obviously this was the way Steve Jobs looked at things, but this has caused Apple to design GUIs and menu systems that look beautiful, but don't always show the most intuitive information. They emphasize simple/clean GUIs with limited information which means you really have to dig sometimes to find things.

Furthermore, Apple purposely makes it harder to use non-Apple software on their computers. For example, Apple blocks foundational/basic system functionality (like sound, or network, etc) on their computers BY DEFAULT for any software that isn't Apple. For example, I had to troubleshoot an audio problem with a High School Band's audio system and it turns out that Apple blocks basic things like sound from working out of the box. So the non-Apple DAW they were using didn't have "permissions" to use audio and therefore none of the tracks were playing properly. Logic Pro has the audio permission allowed by default, but not Reaper or any other DAW not produced by Apple. Now Apple will say that it is a "security" feature when in fact it is just Apple making it more difficult to use non-Apple software. So when a person tries Reaper and it doesn't work right, but Logic Pro seems to work correctly, many times a person is just going to throw in the towel and end up using Logic Pro.

Let me just say that I hate Apple product with a passion. It's been lot of experiences just like this that has caused my hatred to grow to the point where it is today.
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100% agree with this^^^^

I don't want no stinkin apple juice powered stuff.
 
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