Doorbird Camera - horribble quality

[alekslyse]

I was reading around, and figured out Doorbird should have the best integrated doorbells with cameras, but installing it, enabling onvif and "720" the quality is just horrible.

Anyone else with doorbird that can confirm or is it something wrong with mine?


P.S Yes have asked and the neightbours are ok with the cameras

 

[mat200]

Hi @alekslyse

Here's a calculation I did on ID distance, theoretical ( assumes 100% effective pixels ) out to 100 ppf ( pixel density ).

Note the degrees is H FOV ( some products specs do not give it properly, so some below maybe D FOV.. )

Notice that 720P and a wide H FOV = short ID distance. So for a doorbell product you can expect a very short ID distance and nothing very sharp after 6 feet.
This is why I really recommend not having just one camera covering the approach to the front door area. ( I like anyone coming to the front door to have passed through at least 2 camera zones )

• Ring Video Doorbell 720p at 160 degrees: 4.08 feet { 23.23 sq feet covered }
• Logitech Logi Circle HD Wireless Security Camera 720p at 135 degrees: 5.44 feet { 34.85 sq feet covered }
• Arlo Pro / Arlo Go / Netgear Flexpower HD camera 720p at 130 degress: 5.644 feet { 36.12 sq feet covered }
• LaView 2MP 1080p fisheye WiFi camera LV-PWF80216-W 1080p at 185 degrees: 5.95 feet { 57.13 sq feet covered }
• Logitech Circle 2 (V-R0008) 1080p at 180 degrees: 6.11 feet { 58.6 sq feet covered }
• ezviz Mini Trooper 720p wire free cam at 116° : 6.33 feet { 40.54 sq feet covered }
• Foscam C1 720p at 115 degrees: 6.38 feet { 40 sq feet covered }
• YI Home Camera 720p at 111 degrees: 6.61 feet { 42.3 sq feet covered }
• Arlo 720p at 110 degrees: 6.67 feet { 42.68 sq feet covered }

 

[alekslyse]

Yeah absolutely. I have 4 cameras in the front yard with high res they are all superb. Just got a bit suprised switching from ring to the most expensive doorbell on the marked and got a feeling a got a cell phone cameras from nokia

 

[fenderman]

This was noted in every thread about the doorbird. They are working on a 1080 product but it will likely be overpriced as well.

 

[alekslyse]

This was noted in every thread about the doorbird. They are working on a 1080 product but it will likely be overpriced as well.

Is it any other options out there that is not cloud required (nest api shutdown scares me) with onvif or any other local streaming and POE?

 

[fenderman]

Is it any other options out there that is not cloud required (nest api shutdown scares me) with onvif or any other local streaming and POE?

Axis has a 700 dollar doorbell. AXIS A8105-E Network Video Door Station
There is also a cheaper grandstream sip doorbell/intercom but I had issues with the one I tested and didnt want to hold on to a dud. You may have better luck and they are cheap, but bulky. 270 is cheap though.
https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-System-Surveillance-Intercom-GDS3710/dp/B071NY1BD2

 

[alekslyse]

Oh yeah thats too bulky. What about the "new" dahua any reports of the stability of that doorbell and does anyone sell those cameras without branding (im not too happy with a huge dahua / hkvision brand on my doorbell)

 

[fenderman]

Oh yeah thats too bulky. What about the "new" dahua any reports of the stability of that doorbell and does anyone sell those cameras without branding (im not too happy with a huge dahua / hkvision brand on my doorbell)

Stability and wifi...an oxymoron. The axis is small.

 

[alekslyse]

Stability and wifi...an oxymoron. The axis is small.

Is it worth the price?. I see it from 600-1200usd on ebay. quite steep, but if its better than doorbird im not against it. Alternative was to put in a camera through the wall (drill in mini camera) and just use a regular button. I ordered some POE mini cameras I was thinking to use for another project, but maybe its better with a diy solution

 

[fenderman]

Is it worth the price?. I see it from 600-1200usd on ebay. quite steep, but if its better than doorbird im not against it. Alternative was to put in a camera through the wall (drill in mini camera) and just use a regular button. I ordered some POE mini cameras I was thinking to use for another project, but maybe its better with a diy solution

Only you can decide that.

 

[alekslyse]

Only you can decide that.

Im always up for suggestions. My impression was doorbird was the thing onvif, poe, good quality, but pricy, and now I miss my ring2. Im just asking to gain knowledge

 

[fenderman]

Im always up for suggestions. My impression was doorbird was the thing onvif, poe, good quality, but pricy, and now I miss my ring2. Im just asking to gain knowledge

go back to the ring if you dont want to pay.

 

[alekslyse]

go back to the ring if you dont want to pay.

Its not about the money, its about finding the best

 

[mat200]

Its not about the money, its about finding the best

Hi @alekslyse

Have you pulled a cat5e/6 cable to the front door?

I really like having the Dahua OEM 2MP starlight mini-dome at face level. You can combine that with a another IP PoE door bell product ( there are a few reviewed here iirc ) or even one of the wifi doorbell products.

 

[rafale]

Stability and wifi...an oxymoron. The axis is small.

Depends on your wifi setup... I never had any problem with mine. What you use as your AP and the distance/signal interference matters. I just replaced my Skybell HD with an RCA HSDB2. Wifi was never the source of reliability issues. The skybell just had a battery which expanded out of shape pushing the enclosure and making its power contact inconsistent. So far the RCA has been solid.

 

[fenderman]

Depends on your wifi setup... I never had any problem with mine. What you use as your AP and the distance/signal interference matters. I just replaced my Skybell HD with an RCA HSDB2. Wifi was never the source of reliability issues. The skybell just had a battery which expanded out of shape pushing the enclosure and making its power contact inconsistent. So far the RCA has been solid.

doesnt depend. Wifi is never reliable for cams. Ever. You will find out the hard way. Hopefully you have an sd card in there and a secondary camera. Murphy is not forgiving.

 

[rafale]

I beg to differ, I have my home surveillance system setup with 16 cams, 6 of which are wifi, all on 5GHz except for my previous skybell and they have been rock solid for over 3 years running 24x7. The key is likely the 5GHz and lower interference...

 

[Ssayer]

I beg to differ, I have my home surveillance system setup with 16 cams, 6 of which are wifi, all on 5GHz except for my previous skybell and they have been rock solid for over 3 years running 24x7. The key is likely the 5GHz and lower interference...

and it's worked for you simply BECAUSE no "bad character" has come to do something nefarious. It's easy peasy to jam a wifi signal.

 

[alekslyse]

Is still viable - trying to recover a HDW5231R-Z that got stuck in a boot loop when upgrading to the latest version. It doesnt seem like the camera wants to upgrade itself via tftp, even if it connects. Any suggestions:

starting TFTP...
alias / is mapped to root\
permitted clients: all
server port range: all
max blksize: 65464
default blksize: 512
default timeout: 60
file read allowed: Yes
file create allowed: No
file overwrite allowed: No
thread pool size: 1
Listening On: 192.168.254.254:69
Client 192.168.1.108:2863 root\upgrade_info_7db780a713a4.txt, 1 Blocks Served
Client 192.168.1.108:3006 root\pd-x.squashfs.img, 45 Blocks Served
Client 192.168.1.108:3541 root\failed.txt, File not found or No Access

 

[fenderman]

I beg to differ, I have my home surveillance system setup with 16 cams, 6 of which are wifi, all on 5GHz except for my previous skybell and they have been rock solid for over 3 years running 24x7. The key is likely the 5GHz and lower interference...

That is a factual impossibility. But whatever makes you feel better. Wifi will eventually drop, and at the worst time. Wi-Fi cameras are to be used possibly only indoors to monitor pets and kids.. not as surveillance cameras...