I'll never order one, but it appears the younger generation will eventually be forced to buy one. I suspect the Chevy Bolt will take it's place in history right next to the Ford Pinto.
When are you ordering your EV?
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sebastiantombs
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The whole EV thing is yet another scam. The power comes from carbon based generation and "green" energy it'll be probably close to a century away from being able to satisfy the generating requirements, especially without some magical breakthrough in technology. Throw in the fact that they need to be driven around 60-65,000 miles to recover their own production cost in carbon and throw in the carbon cost of disposing of the batteries, mining and processing the minerals needed for the batteries and then producing the batteries and it's a total scam an a half.
Yeah, I'm rushing right out to trade in my F150 EcoBoost for a new, totally electric F150 for 60-70 K. In a pigs eye. FJB can KMA.
Yeah, I'm rushing right out to trade in my F150 EcoBoost for a new, totally electric F150 for 60-70 K. In a pigs eye. FJB can KMA.
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IReallyLikePizza2
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It will be a long time until I change my F150 for an electric one, just because of the range. I have a 36 gallon tank, and I keep about 80 gallons of gas at home, so I can bring that with me if needed too
But, for my wife's car, an EV would be killer. Would never need to go to a gas station again, would leave the house fully charged every single day. And, if a hurricane rolls through and there is a run on gas, I could still drive around!
I have 17kw of solar, and while I have 1:1 net metering now, soon enough here in Texas it will be gone forever, so no more using the grid as a battery for free when it goes away. I could charge the car up literally for free from excess generation in the day. Driving around for free, I'll take that any day
On a good day I export over 60kwh, enough to easily charge a car
But, for my wife's car, an EV would be killer. Would never need to go to a gas station again, would leave the house fully charged every single day. And, if a hurricane rolls through and there is a run on gas, I could still drive around!
I have 17kw of solar, and while I have 1:1 net metering now, soon enough here in Texas it will be gone forever, so no more using the grid as a battery for free when it goes away. I could charge the car up literally for free from excess generation in the day. Driving around for free, I'll take that any day
On a good day I export over 60kwh, enough to easily charge a car
When my Dad was alive, he bought a 2000 Prius new. We sat down and calculated it out, what the inflated price was he paid for the hybrid vs what he could have bought a normal Toyota economy passenger car for. We finally calculated it out, he would break even at 100k miles for the extra cost and fuel savings. The car never made it to 100k. The inverter took a shit at 60k, he paid out of pocket to get that fixed at around $5000.00 and the batteries took a shit around 75k and it was going to cost more to have the batteries replaced than what the car was even worth. We ended up scraping it out for $500.00.
IReallyLikePizza2
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And you can make Biden a happy man when you buy an electric car.
I love my F150 with 36 gallon tank and 3.5 eco boost. At 19mpg, I can go for ever, and like said above, I keep enough to go quite a ways.
Although, a small diesel pc/car would be nice. It's easier to store diesel, and more BTU per gallon.
Wonder about a VW or ranger pickup with a 50 gallon tank in the back?
I love my F150 with 36 gallon tank and 3.5 eco boost. At 19mpg, I can go for ever, and like said above, I keep enough to go quite a ways.
Although, a small diesel pc/car would be nice. It's easier to store diesel, and more BTU per gallon.
Wonder about a VW or ranger pickup with a 50 gallon tank in the back?
Not sure. I consistently get between 34 and 36 MPG on my Audi A4. It holds 15 gallons and I have a range of Approx. 520 miles. Weird thing about this car.....It gets better fuel mileage running 90 MPH than it does running 70 MPH. At 90 MPH, the engine tach is running 1850RPM. At 70 MPH, tach is reading in the 1450-1500 RPM range. Another 15 gallons in the back would put me well over 1000 milesAnd you can make Biden a happy man when you buy an electric car.
I love my F150 with 36 gallon tank and 3.5 eco boost. At 19mpg, I can go for ever, and like said above, I keep enough to go quite a ways.
Although, a small diesel pc/car would be nice. It's easier to store diesel, and more BTU per gallon.
Wonder about a VW or ranger pickup with a 50 gallon tank in the back?
I really wonder if some of the cars disable some of the EPA junk while running higher speeds, or while in sport mode?
If my Honda Accord is warm, stick it onto sport mode and you pull out straight onto the interstate, then run 80-90, turn the sport mode off, the mileage goes up about 3-4 mpg. I did this several time while working in Wyoming.
It doesn't work on the F150
aerodynamics really kill the gas mileage.
If my Honda Accord is warm, stick it onto sport mode and you pull out straight onto the interstate, then run 80-90, turn the sport mode off, the mileage goes up about 3-4 mpg. I did this several time while working in Wyoming.
It doesn't work on the F150
aerodynamics really kill the gas mileage.
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IReallyLikePizza2
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Well...
www.nytimes.com
‘A Few Dirty Tricks’: Documents Show Audi’s Role in the Volkswagen Emissions Scandal (Published 2019)
The carmaker’s luxury unit was more deeply involved in cheating pollution rules than previously known.
VW isn't the only vehicle maker that has been fudging the emissions numbers. GM and Chrysler got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, too. But, the MSM must have been extra busy trying to get Trump impeached back in the early days.....and missed those stories....Well...
‘A Few Dirty Tricks’: Documents Show Audi’s Role in the Volkswagen Emissions Scandal (Published 2019)
The carmaker’s luxury unit was more deeply involved in cheating pollution rules than previously known.
Lawsuit Claims GM Used Defeat Devices On Duramax Diesel Trucks And SUVs
The class-action lawsuit accuses General Motors of using "at least three separate 'defeat devices' to increase engine power and efficiency" in its Duramax diesel engines.
www.npr.org
EPA Accuses Fiat Chrysler Of Installing Emissions-Cheating Software
The Environmental Protection Agency says Fiat Chrysler violated the Clean Air Act by allegedly installing software in about 104,000 vehicles that masked the true level of emissions.
www.npr.org
Picked up a Mustang Mach-E for my wife on Valentines Day ( I know, best husband ever ). It seemed perfect given that she doesn't do too much driving typically. With the purchase, I qualify for a $7500 tax credit and I also got the power company to give me a $1000 rebate for buying an EV. So far, she loves the car although it does seem like a PC with a steering wheel and tires. Many settings to learn. The best thing is the Ford Blue Cruise. I must admit it still feels totally weird to set the cruise control and let go of the steering wheel doing 65MPH on the highway. 
Ford delivers its first F-150 Lightning as EV truck war kicks into high gear
Tesla owner is first to get a Ford F-150 Lightning.
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IReallyLikePizza2
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Picked up a Mustang Mach-E for my wife on Valentines Day ( I know, best husband ever ). It seemed perfect given that she doesn't do too much driving typically. With the purchase, I qualify for a $7500 tax credit and I also got the power company to give me a $1000 rebate for buying an EV. So far, she loves the car although it does seem like a PC with a steering wheel and tires. Many settings to learn. The best thing is the Ford Blue Cruise. I must admit it still feels totally weird to set the cruise control and let go of the steering wheel doing 65MPH on the highway.
Yeah, I bet it does feel weird going only 65 on the highway
Parley
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Here in California the electrical infrastructure is to weak to handle much more. We are already getting brownouts.
Same here...2018 F-150 with 3.5L V6 Ecoboost and 36 gal. tank ....had to take out a home equity loan to fill it up last week, $154. But at 20 MPG the range is 720 miles.
Yeah, let just 50 people get home about 6PM to their residential neighborhood of 200 houses and all plug in at the same time into their 200 AMP service to charge their EVs.....goes from brownout to blackout.
As I’ve written before, my wife brought up the most basic of problems with charging EV’s. When a subdivision is submitted for approval the smallest, least expensive wire is in the plans - just enough to satisfy local government.
If every house in an even small subdivision has a 50 amp circuit installed and they use it to charge their EV’s I’m worried about fire much less blackouts.
If every house in an even small subdivision has a 50 amp circuit installed and they use it to charge their EV’s I’m worried about fire much less blackouts.
Nice curves!
Here in the PNW, this is more typical
I wouldn't normally get solar here because it's dumb, but there were 3 subsidies. Federal, state, and the utility. Everyone's paying for my solar, because subsidizing those that are reasonably well off so they can save money is super important
It doesn't make sense for ratepayers to subsidize wealthy people to have solar and utilize the grid as a battery. The whole system cost goes up with increasing solar that's on it. People feel good about being "green" though, since some generators can sit idle, not being utilized while the sun intermittently delivers whatever god decides to give us.
Still no talk of 1:1 going away in Oregon. This is the only dumb government redistribution scheme I've ever been able to take advantage of.