At least they had a good chuckle over it....
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Another "That camera is following me" clip
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Flintstone61
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Most impressive. When I pass my IPcamTalk General knowledge test and get a license to point that thing, I'll think about it 
.....Only thing... You can never tell your girlfriend, before you buy it.
But for sure they will smack you after it's up and running.
.....Only thing... You can never tell your girlfriend, before you buy it.
But for sure they will smack you after it's up and running.
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Do u have have multiple tripwires set up? After it went back to preset it picked her up again.
Yes and 2 presets.
This was actually a complicated setup and many bourbons were consumed over months to get it working right.
Notice when they first stopped it decided to go back to its preset as it didnt sense any more movement (Something that is quite aggravating, there should be a dwell time setting) Once back at preset it picked up movement again and tracked again.
That first video is actually preset 2 not its "home". Its home preset is zoomed further up the street. Another fixed 5442 watches the actual turn around, and acts as a spotter for the PTZ in case something slips by its initial tracking at preset #1
Here's the initial "home" Preset#1 picking them up about 450-500ft up the street
Notice it breaks tracking once then re-acquires. Tracking set for Human only filter
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Then the spotter 5442 picks them up (human only filter again and only humans heading toward the cul-de-sac), and tells the PTZ to go to Preset #2 and watch the cul-de-sac. Remember this is "behind" its initial home view. So the spotter is really acting as a backup in case the PTZ were to lose tracking from its initial home.
Spotter 5442 Tripwire
And finally to your question, here's the Tripwire/Intrusion zone covering the Preset2 cul-de-sac view
This was actually a complicated setup and many bourbons were consumed over months to get it working right.
Notice when they first stopped it decided to go back to its preset as it didnt sense any more movement (Something that is quite aggravating, there should be a dwell time setting) Once back at preset it picked up movement again and tracked again.
That first video is actually preset 2 not its "home". Its home preset is zoomed further up the street. Another fixed 5442 watches the actual turn around, and acts as a spotter for the PTZ in case something slips by its initial tracking at preset #1
Here's the initial "home" Preset#1 picking them up about 450-500ft up the street
Notice it breaks tracking once then re-acquires. Tracking set for Human only filter
View attachment HOA Rear_ch1_20211005111115_20211005111251.mp4
Then the spotter 5442 picks them up (human only filter again and only humans heading toward the cul-de-sac), and tells the PTZ to go to Preset #2 and watch the cul-de-sac. Remember this is "behind" its initial home view. So the spotter is really acting as a backup in case the PTZ were to lose tracking from its initial home.
Spotter 5442 Tripwire
And finally to your question, here's the Tripwire/Intrusion zone covering the Preset2 cul-de-sac view
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I love spotter cams! It add a whole additional dimension to PTZs with autotrack.
Flintstone61
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When I grow up I wanna have Spotter cams too. dammit all.
I might be too Joe Six pack to deal with it.
I might be too Joe Six pack to deal with it.
Yep!
The reason this one was hard is that I had to set the spotter tripwire perfectly between the preset1 and preset2 IVS lines so there was no crossover, and I had to sort out direction of travel and the many possibilities of how people may traverse the scene. Its still not perfect, but that is a good example of what i was trying to achieve
The reason this one was hard is that I had to set the spotter tripwire perfectly between the preset1 and preset2 IVS lines so there was no crossover, and I had to sort out direction of travel and the many possibilities of how people may traverse the scene. Its still not perfect, but that is a good example of what i was trying to achieve
You can do it now with all your cams and that cheap @$$ PTZ lol.
Before I got an autotrack PTZ I created a poor-mans autotrack for my cheap@$$ PTZ and it worked surprisingly well. Seven cloned cameras in BI each with a zone identified to a preset for the PTZ.
Flintstone61
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But I quit drinkin 31 years ago....How am i gonna match you in Bourbon Problem solving?
Ohhh, well that could be a problem then....
Mike A.
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I still do that with mine now. I think we've collaborated a few times here to get some other poor-man's setups going. lol
Just do it @Flintstone61. It's worth it just to see it work and amaze yourself that you could make it do that. Once you get the first spotter/preset working you'll be hooked and the rest are easy.
Flintstone61
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Now I have the PTZ out back. ( on Goose shit patrol.) i suppose I have 3 cams in the rear......that can be "trigger" cams.
can you make it track to more than 1 preset on a single cam using different zones?
can you make it track to more than 1 preset on a single cam using different zones?
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Yes. You can tie the spotters to move the PTZ to different presets. e.g., Spotter 1 triggers, move to Preset 1. Spotter 2 triggers. move to preset 2. Etc...
And as @wittaj said above, you can create clones of the spotters/zones to trigger and move things in more complex ways.
And as @wittaj said above, you can create clones of the spotters/zones to trigger and move things in more complex ways.
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Yes.
The problem I see with Intrusion boxes alone, (and this is pure observation I haven’t done extensive controlled A/B testing to prove it) is that they are even more sensitive to the “3D” effect than Tripwires, and harder to visualize in your head. You really have to experiment with different layouts for the Intrusion box to account for this.
Even if you have the 3D positioning right, both can still miss a subject due I think primarily to contrast or lack thereof, other obstacles in the scene, and sometimes object speed, but the Intrusion box seems to miss far more for me.
On the other hand, Tripwire suffers because the object must cross the line, so a single line sometimes misses, which is why I like the zig-zag. I think the “crossing” sensitivity of Tripwire is better than that of Intrusion, while Intrusion has the obvious benefit of the “Appears” filter, but that is less sensitive.
By combining the two I’m simply adding redundancy and it’s free!
The problem I see with Intrusion boxes alone, (and this is pure observation I haven’t done extensive controlled A/B testing to prove it) is that they are even more sensitive to the “3D” effect than Tripwires, and harder to visualize in your head. You really have to experiment with different layouts for the Intrusion box to account for this.
Even if you have the 3D positioning right, both can still miss a subject due I think primarily to contrast or lack thereof, other obstacles in the scene, and sometimes object speed, but the Intrusion box seems to miss far more for me.
On the other hand, Tripwire suffers because the object must cross the line, so a single line sometimes misses, which is why I like the zig-zag. I think the “crossing” sensitivity of Tripwire is better than that of Intrusion, while Intrusion has the obvious benefit of the “Appears” filter, but that is less sensitive.
By combining the two I’m simply adding redundancy and it’s free!
NVR's, Im not smart enough for BI 
But you can do this with Blue Iris as well!
I have several spotter cams doing this exact thing, and get instances where the person stops from the original spotter cam and the PTZ goes back to the preset, and then another spotter picks them back up and swings the PTZ to another preset.
I have several spotter cams doing this exact thing, and get instances where the person stops from the original spotter cam and the PTZ goes back to the preset, and then another spotter picks them back up and swings the PTZ to another preset.