bidens incredible transition to electric cars

It's real simple. I will purchase an electric vehicle when EVERY SINGLE democrat who is trying to shove this down our throats purchases one first. Just like I'll give up gas stoves, gas water heaters, etc.. when every single democrat does it first.

Until then, democrats = the party that tells you what to THINK, what to DO, what to SAY... meanwhile they do the exact opposite. The party of hypocrites.
 
+1^^.

As I see it, the Biden admin merely wants (wanted) to please those that held to climate change, global warming, and elimination of ANY dependency on fossil fuels. By doing so, they thought they'd secure the votes of their minions and their loyalty which they did to some degree and for a time.

In reality, that admin could care less, again IMO, about our environment as it was all about maintaining power.

People do NOT like being coerced into anything and not being allowed any options....I know I don't and I don't care what it is. :headbang:

I also think EV's have a place but it's how the admin has been going about moving in that direction that gets under my skin.
 
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It will educate how the Oil and Gas Industry is not going away any time in our lifetime, nor the lifetime a thousand of years from now, IMO, EVERYTHING is made of Oil...I get lowering Emissions in vehicles, heck I lived through the 60s 70s where if you had your windows rolled down stuck in traffic you would get a large dose of tailpipe CO2...why do you think there is a Recirculate on our vehicle A/C units. Smelling yourself is better than smelling someone else's tailpipe.

Well those days are over, we have much better emission control:

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I get it, there are more vehicles now...

But, I am not buying that EVs are that much better for the Environment argument. I have heard/seen alot of BS in my lifetime, I will let my nose decide...I am with @TonyR , EVs may have their place but not in my garage, haha, guess I am just an old fart now.
 
I haven't watched it yet, do you think they will end up portaying him as a nut job? I watched Homeland which was pretty good until they went woke and changed from hunting down terrorists to trying to understand and help them.
 
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I haven't watched it yet, do you think they will end up portaying him as a nut job? I watched Homeland which was pretty good until they went woke and changed from hunting down terrorists to trying to understand and help them.
So, one thing I like about this series is any wokeness (ignorance) is squashed with Truth...I quickly turn off a series, which are most of them now, that is full of wokeness or too much pride, if you know what I mean. I think you will like it, rare I sit through a whole series. It takes place in Midland, Texas...

We cut it in half, watched 5 Episodes the first evening, then the last, last night. It has a high rating...Not trying to get off topic here but this does apply to the Thread...

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Daimler Will Resume Selling Diesel Trucks in Oregon

“Acceptance of ICE orders was paused due to a misunderstanding in how zero-emission vehicles credits would be recognized in the state’s implementation of the Advanced Clean Truck rule,” the statement continued. “It has been clarified with the Oregon Department of Environmental Quality that DTNA’s understanding of the implementation of ACT is correct, and we will receive credits for vehicles it reported to the state.”

Slightly changing the subject, I caught a new gem today about road funding:
"....more Oregonians are buying electric vehicles and not chipping in on the gas tax, all while Oregon’s infrastructure continues to age and deteriorate."

So first came the incentives, then the mandates, and now the blaming. The problem isn't the EVs, it's the stupid politicians who push the stupid people who voted for them to do things with unforeseen consequences that would have been obvious to everybody except liberals.

Oregon roads and bridges are old and damaged. Fixing them is an expensive task for lawmakers this year
 
A heavy truck manufacturer is ceasing sales in Oregon because of an electric percentage mandate.
Oregon’s New Electric Truck Rule Is Disrupting Oregon’s Transportation Industry

On Dec. 20, Daimler Trucks North America issued a stunning statement: It would stop selling large diesel trucks in Oregon.
“Effective immediately, DTNA is pausing all orders for new internal combustion vehicles intended for registration in Oregon,”

Here’s how DEQ’s “Advanced Clean Trucks rule” works: Out of every 100 new Class 8 heavy trucks a manufacturer sells in Oregon in 2025, seven must be electric. That percentage of electric trucks will increase every year, reaching 40% of all heavy trucks sold in 2032.

Sounds a bit like an echo of the California home insurers discontinuing business in the state because of government mandates.

I missed this bit of news.

On a tangent, my latest gas bill is $230. That's twice as much as normal for this time of year. I received a letter from Northwest Natural Gas (I need to dig it out so I can quote it verbatim), but it basically said they colluded with politicians to require a certain percent of my natural gas to be "renewable", and therefore prices are essentially doubling in 2 years. Utilities typically are allowed profit as a percent of operating expenses, so if politicians make things more expensive, they are allowed more profit, so they have no incentive to push back, or reduce operating costs.

Exploding gas prices (pun intended) would normally push consumers toward "green" electric appliances, but PGE (Portland General Electric) has increased prices about 70% in the past 4 years.

The good news though is that Oregon has singlehandedly solved global warming, so everyone else can take a sigh of relief. I'm happy knowing that it just took me and a handful of other folks paying through the nose for energy to avert the climate catastrophe. It will totally offset emissions from China and India, because science.

My wife’s great grandfather made electric cars in the 1910s and 1920s, the Baker Electric. They had nickel-iron batteries, which will still work if you put fresh electrolyte in periodically, but they aren’t very energy dense.

The recent advances in nuclear fusion make me hope that cheap, clean electricity might keep civilization going when oil and coal eventually become uneconomical.

But I don’t think it’s inevitable that batteries will improve to the point of letting electric cars replace internal combustion motors. Maybe, but maybe not. They’re still the weak link, just as they were in the Baker Electric.

Also, we can’t even keep the grid up when everyone turns on their air conditioners, so what happens when people are trying to suck five or ten times as much electricity through those wires to charge cars? The government should be happy to let electric car demand develop slowly. We’re not near ready for a wholesale changeover, even were it a good idea, or distantly inevitable.

EVs are superior but for the "fuel tank", which is so inferior that its not the preferred option for most people and applications. As I point out, the battery is a $10,000 gas tank that takes an eternity to fill, is large and heavy, diminishes in capacity with use and time, requires temperature regulation, is sensitive to vibration, and might kill a person working on it.

If the battery only cost $500, could be charged in 5 minutes, and had 5x the energy density, nearly everyone would choose an EV.
 
They’d be very attractive if the batteries were better or cheaper. Wife and I could get by with one car now, and it’s tempting to get an electric one since we don’t go more than a couple of miles 95% of the time. But there’s that other 5%…

California now turns the power off when the winds start to blow. Then they might tell me to evacuate, but the car would be on empty.

Otoh, my 85 diesel mercedes would run on vegetable oil in an emergency…
 
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