Blue Iris UI3

bp2008 said:
Sounds like BI is having trouble serving the timeline video at all. Does it work okay when you are on local wifi or a wired LAN? Or on a different device?
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Seems to work fine on local wifi/wired LAN.

However even when I have a 20 mbit downstream cellular connection (which is the lowest I'd get), it still struggles, even when I have it set to 480p resolution.

Would this need more than 20mbps if I'm looking at an 8 camera view in the timeline at 480p?
Even the individual substreams are only ~150kbps each, so I'm fairly certain that it could theoretically pull all 8 substream recordings simultaneously on a 5 mbps connection.

I'm running an 11th gen Intel i5 with 16GB RAM with a PCIe 4.0 SDD for OS, and footage is being recorded on a 6TB WD Purple HDD.
 
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The bit rates you configured in each camera are largely irrelevant to UI3 because all the video Blue Iris sends to UI3 is re-encoded with the streaming profile you chose. 480p has a max bit rate of 456 Kbps unless you edited the streaming profile to change it, but you'd be hard pressed to make a 480p stream big enough to struggle on the kind of connection you describe. Even the 4K profile has a max bit rate of 8192 Kbps so you should not have major problems streaming it over cellular (besides using an excessive amount of bandwidth).

The one exception to this is if you've enabled "direct-to-wire" streaming, then single-camera live streams from H.264 cams are sent in their original form without regard for the chosen streaming profile. Due to the limitations of that feature, it is certainly not active while you are seeking on the timeline.

I really have no idea what could be wrong.
 
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actran said:
@bp2008 No rush. When I playback a clip in Clips tab, the playback includes my overlays (overlays have been enabled in camera config).

However, when I playback same triggered event in Timeline tab, the overlays are not there.

UI3 version 223, Blue Iris version: 5.6.2.1

Any chance we can support overlays in Timeline tab for single camera playback? and possibly during group playback?
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@actran Please try Blue Iris 5.6.2.6. If you still don't get overlays when scrolled back on the timeline, try right clicking the video and using the "Text/graphic overlays > Force ON" option. Those options were broken on my system but Ken fixed them for 5.6.2.6 and hopefully that fixes your problem too.
 
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I recently started using several tablets at entry/exit points in the house. A couple of HD fire tablets and a Samsung note 10. I'm using UI3 (223) on all of them, full screen. None seem to go more than about 24 hours before the page crashes (oh snap) and I have to reload - at which point it'll work again for 24 hours (+/- 10 hrs).

I've tried it with the built-in Amazon Silk browser, Chrome, and Brave (with shields turned off). Same result.

Are there any tweaks I can make to the android platform or browser via UI3 (or the BI server) that might help reduce or eliminate these crashes?

I'm running on 480p. Tried it with direct-to-wire both enabled and disabled.
 
I have a problem that I am seeing on a box running 223 that I did not have previously, though I could definitely turn out to be a config/user error.

I have UI3 limited to 5 FPS and 4096 kbps, and while looking at all cameras I get 5 FPS. However, once I click on a stream the bitrate drops and becomes unstable, dropping to 2-3 FPS. The computer is not struggling, CPU/GPU/MEM all very low. I have another identically setup box running an older version of BI/UI3 (v 161) which does not show this issue.
 
@erkme73 Try the JavaScript H.264 player in the UI settings.


@ericINT I'm not sure.. How did you limit the FPS and Kbps? Have you recently enabled "Direct-to-wire" mode in the BI web server > Advanced > Configure (Encoder options)? Or "Direct-to-wire" within a UI3 streaming profile? That feature could cause compatibility problems. Are you using sub streams? If your sub streams are configured weird, it can cause streaming problems especially once it tries to switch to the main stream after you click on a camera. There's a guide for sub streams.
 
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bp2008 said:
@ericINT I'm not sure.. How did you limit the FPS and Kbps? Have you recently enabled "Direct-to-wire" mode in the BI web server > Advanced > Configure (Encoder options)? Or "Direct-to-wire" within a UI3 streaming profile? That feature could cause compatibility problems. Are you using sub streams? If your sub streams are configured weird, it can cause streaming problems especially once it tries to switch to the main stream after you click on a camera. There's a guide for sub streams.
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Thanks for making me re-read the guide for sub-streams. I did not have the sub-stream rate the same as the main-stream which caused the issue.

It is odd that I have the same incorrect settings on the older system and it is working fine. BI/UI3 ( 5.4.9.18 / 161)
Regardless I will make the change to both.
 
erkme73 said:
I will set all three up on JS and will post back. TY
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No luck. It bombed out within 15 min....

Actually it didn't bomb out. The screen just shut off. Interestingly, the html5 keeps the screen on indefinitely, but the JS doesn't. Any way that can be changed on my end?
 
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I run "Alive!" on my fire tablets Android app to keep them from having their screen shut off.
 
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Ssayer said:
I run "Alive!" on my fire tablets Android app to keep them from having their screen shut off.
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Good idea. But if there is a way for the browser to keep it awake, I'd prefer that route. They've all been de-bloated and neutered/firewalled. I'd prefer to keep background things to a minimum.

But, since you appear to be doing the same as me, do you have issues with your UI3 on the tablets "oh snapping"?
 
Every so often (but not THAT often), the screen will go blank on one or another for a couple of seconds. That's about the extent of my interruptions. I run 6 tablets (3 Fire10 and 3 Fire8) pretty much 24/7. 5 of them run different BI Cam setups. The other one runs Windy Android app
 
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Offhand, I'd have to look. That said, the 8s are from 2018 and earlier. The 10s are 2020 and 2021.

Edit:
The 8 in front of me (running Windy) is 7th gen.
 
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erkme73 said:
Good idea. But if there is a way for the browser to keep it awake, I'd prefer that route. They've all been de-bloated and neutered/firewalled. I'd prefer to keep background things to a minimum.

But, since you appear to be doing the same as me, do you have issues with your UI3 on the tablets "oh snapping"?
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Keeping the screen on is out of UI3's direct control. It is a behavior of the HTML5 video element. The JavaScript player doesn't use an HTML5 video element, so the browser doesn't try to keep the screen on. I suppose I could make a hacky screen-keepalive function by looping a small video in a hidden HTML5 player. I'll put it in my todo list but it won't be high priority.
 
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After turning on "keep screen on while charging" under developer options, I can prevent the screen from turning off. However, it still goes into dim mode after the "display timeout" time has been exceeded (30 min). So, I gave in and installed wakey (similar to alive) - a program my brother uses on his tablets. Keeps screen on and at max brightness. Since doing so, I haven't had a single "oh snap" crash. So the crashing may well have something to do with the tablet going into reduced power mode. Nope. Still oh snaps on at least one.
BTW, I've put all tablets on their own subnet which has no WAN access.
 
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After turning on "keep screen on while charging" under developer options, I can prevent the screen from turning off. However, it still goes into dim mode after the "display timeout" time has been exceeded (30 min). So, I gave in and installed wakey (similar to alive) - a program my brother uses on his tablets. Keeps screen on and at max brightness. Since doing so, I haven't had a single "oh snap" crash. So the crashing may well have something to do with the tablet going into reduced power mode. Nope. Still oh snaps on at least one.
BTW, I've put all tablets on their own subnet which has no WAN access.
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Might be good to let them update Chrome if you have not done so in a while. As a last resort you can also try jpeg streaming since it works so differently, it might not trigger the same crash.
 
erkme73 said:
I'm still getting horrible playback on my PC and phone unless I move the resolution down to something less than 720p. Looking at the stats for nerds, do that reveal any clues? I get the same playback on the BI mobile app on my higher-end android phone as well - so I'm not sure whether it's server or client (or both). The CPU on the client and server never get saturated and I'm able to speed test to my full GB up/down speed from my ISP while doing these tests, so I seem to have plenty of LAN bandwidth.
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That is how my system responded with the framerate unequal on the substream and main stream.
 
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I updated my production computer today to 5.6.2.9. It didn’t go as well as on my test computer.

That said, UI3 is now requiring credentials. Obviously I want to have it open without requiring credentials.

The web page states that “Your connection is not private”

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Any ideas on why? The UI3 tablet is 192.168.0.146 which is local, lan.
 
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