Has anyone successfully used Blue Iris with Mullvad VPN?

[Apollo]

I recently added to Mullvad VPN to my Windows 10 computer that runs Blue Iris. When the VPN is active, I am no longer able to access the web server from the internet (although I still can from my LAN). I have followed Mullvad's instructions for opening a (TCP) port and have changed my (DD-WRT) router's port forwarding accordingly, The connection to that port is refused.

Any ideas?

 

[Walrus]

Wrong type of VPN. Search, this comes up all the time.

 

[Hammerhead786]

You need an inbound VPN, not an outbound one.

 

[Apollo]

I think there's some confusion. This VPN is both outbound, and supposedly will open a port for inbound use. This not a dedicated Blue Iris system, thus the need for outbound VPN. There's no reason it shouldn't work.

 

[Apollo]

Port forwarding with Mullvad VPN - Guides | Mullvad VPN

How to forward ports to your computer when using Mullvad.

mullvad.net

 

[fenderman]

I think there's some confusion. This VPN is both outbound, and supposedly will open a port for inbound use. There's no reason it shouldn't work.

Why are you paying some random company to route your traffic and reduce your bandwidth?

 

[Hammerhead786]

I think there's some confusion. This VPN is both outbound, and supposedly will open a port for inbound use. This not a dedicated Blue Iris system, thus the need for outbound VPN. There's no reason it shouldn't work.

Well if there's no reason it shouldn't work, have you tried this?: support@mullvad.net

 

[SouthernYankee]

My general VPN post

There are two types of VPN, do not get them confused.

The type depends on where the traffic conversation originates

1) origination: local home network, destination the internet.
This type of VPN purpose to hides your activity from the internet, it is outbound, it normally costs a monthly fee to use. Direction is from your home PC to the internet, going to your bank, google, porn sites,,,, this not what you want

2) Origination: the internet world wide web, destination: your home network
This VPN type is used to provide a secure connection onto your local network, in bound to you local home network, from your office computer, your cell phone in your car, tablet at the coffee shop.. This is what you want, it does not have a monthly fee and is normally completely free. OpenVPN is this type of VPN.

If you home internet provider is a cellular network, then DDNS (dynamic Domain Name System) may not work, the DDNS is needed for most Inbound VPN services (OpenVpn), so OpenVPN may not work for you.

 

[Apollo]

Why are you paying some random company to route your traffic and reduce your bandwidth?

The premise of your question is errant. The company is not random–it is a well-respected VPN provider. I use it to increase my privacy and security while using the internet. Why that's beneficial is a vast topic probably outside of the scope of this discussion.

 

[Apollo]

Well if there's no reason it shouldn't work, have you tried this?: support@mullvad.net

Not yet. I have a couple more things to try. I think I need to specify the VPN IP address in my NAT (although I think I already tried that). I'll try it again and report back here if it works.

 

[Apollo]

My general VPN post

There are two types of VPN, do not get them confused.

The type depends on where the traffic conversation originates

1) origination: local home network, destination the internet.
This type of VPN purpose to hides your activity from the internet, it is outbound, it normally costs a monthly fee to use. Direction is from your home PC to the internet, going to your bank, google, porn sites,,,, this not what you want

2) Origination: the internet world wide web, destination: your home network
This VPN type is used to provide a secure connection onto your local network, in bound to you local home network, from your office computer, your cell phone in your car, tablet at the coffee shop.. This is what you want, it does not have a monthly fee and is normally completely free. OpenVPN is this type of VPN.

If you home internet provider is a cellular network, then DDNS (dynamic Domain Name System) may not work, the DDNS is needed for most Inbound VPN services (OpenVpn), so OpenVPN may not work for you.

Thank you. Yes, I understand the difference between the two configurations. My priority is outbound VPN since my access to Blue Iris is almost exclusively via LAN and desktop. Once I can access Blue Iris remotely, I will set up OpenVPN (which I've already tested on my router–it's not difficult to set up). By the way, Mullvad uses OpenVPN or WireShark.

 

[fenderman]

The premise of your question is errant. The company is not random–it is a well-respected VPN provider. I use it to increase my privacy and security while using the internet. Why that's beneficial is a vast topic probably outside of the scope of this discussion.

It doesn’t increase your privacy or security one bit. In fact you are less secure, Because these are obscure tiny companies that can fold any day, You have no idea what they’re doing with your data. Your ISP is at the very least concerned about litigation. You are being screwed out of your money.

 

[Apollo]

It doesn’t increase your privacy or security one bit. In fact you are less secure, Because these are obscure tiny companies that can fold any day, You have no idea what they’re doing with your data. Your ISP is at the very least concerned about litigation. You are being screwed out of your money.

OK man. I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about.

 

[SouthernYankee]

Fenderman hit the nail on the head. The VPN company now has 100% of your data, What security guarantees do they provide for your security. Most of VPN companies do not even use there own servers. The servers are splattered all over the world in someone else data center. VPN companies have had there servers hacked.

My last 5 years of work were in data security for one of the biggest companies in the world. VPNs for outbound data are a very bad joke.

 

[fenderman]

OK man. I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about.

from the expert who wants to port forward! You are getting scammed.

 

[Apollo]

Fenderman hit the nail on the head. The VPN company now has 100% of your data, What security guarantees do they provide for your security. Most of VPN companies do not even use there own servers. The servers are splattered all over the world in someone else data center. VPN companies have had there servers hacked.

My last 5 years of work were in data security for one of the biggest companies in the world. VPNs for outbound data are a very bad joke.

The only data they have (and immediately discard by the way) are the DNS requests and URLs that I visit. I can live with that.

 

[fenderman]

The only data they have (and immediately discard by the way) are the DNS requests and URLs that I visit. I can live with that.

right, they is what you are told.

 

[Apollo]

Thank you everyone for your comments. The issue has been resolved.

 

[vandyman]

The best VPN service is;
Openvpn on your home network. All of your info will stay there and can only be opened up with a certificate key that is made by you.
There is no need to open up ports on your router for the world to see.