HD-SDI 1080P to IP POE 4K (WOW)

[wickedstangs]

Hello everyone, I am new to this forum a couple of question? I know I am a little late to the party. And I may have bought all the work parts. But, could sure use some good information.

My old setup was :

1-HDSDI IR Eyeball Dome FULL HD (1080p) Security Camera 4.3mm Mega-Pixel IR Fixed Lens • 25 IR LED / Range up to 60ft DC 12V • Smart IR

Next I decided to try the below to replace my current out dated one. so I purchased a Amcrest UltraHD 4K POE Turret IP Security Camera / 8-Megapixel 3840x2160 / 164ft Night Vision / MicroSD Recording / Metal Housing / IP67 Weatherproof / 2.8mm Lens / FOV 112° / IP8M-T2499EW-28MM (White)


Here they are side by side


Picture quality is better than before so I am happy for that.

BEFORE



AFTER


Now here comes the issue. I just purchased Amcrest NVR because I like the way the new camera looked and the ease of installation. I also downloaded Blue-Iris on the desktop and decide that is not the route, I would like to go. Now after reading all the reviews on the different cameras on IPCT and looking for more cameras to replace the below I torn between returning my NVR and getting cameras that you all talk about or can those cameras work with my NEW IN BOX NVR don't have an idea of what to do next.

I have 6 of these around my house. Most of was purchased back in 09 or 10. Can't remember.
HD-SDI Outdoor (IP68) 1080p Anti-IR Reflection Series Storm IR Dome Camera VF Lens. Anti-IR Reflection Series (The Shield). 2 pcs of High Powered IR Storm Case • 2.8~12mm Mega-Pixel Lens 1/2" Sony CMOS, Minimum Illumination - 0 Lux with IR on Auto Removable IR-Cut Filter (ICR) True Day & Night. Deep color and clear video at both day and night time DNR (Digital Noise Reduction) • D-WDR

 

[wickedstangs]

Here is a night shot...

 

[looney2ns]

Start your journey here by studying this: Cliff Notes.

 

[wickedstangs]

Start your journey here by studying this: Cliff Notes.

Thanks for the info...

 

[mat200]

Welcome @wickedstangs

I have a Dahua OEM NVR NVR5216-16P-4KS2 that I picked up from Andy.

I have looked at the various NVR models from Amcrest, and I believe many of them are lower tier models. I have yet to determine exactly what Amcrest NVR model maps to the Dahua OEM international line up.

That Amcrest turret should be close to a Dahua OEM international model IPC-HDW48xx ( ah, iirc they just changed their model numbers ) and does well when you have enough light.

note - recall seeing that it does not support the Dahua IVS features, while the LaView Saturn line ( also Dahua OEM ) does, and as other brands ( Montavue for example ), and many of the Dahua OEM cameras Andy carries does.

Considering that, if you get a Blue Iris setup - Blue Iris can do a lot of those more advanced feature calculations on the host PC ( thus why a new gen i5/i7 cpu is recommended ).

Members here really like the Blue Iris + used windows i5/i7 PC ( gen 4+ ) + PoE switch option.

If you want to mix and match brands, Blue Iris works well - and as noted can do some good compute on the PC instead of hoping that your camera / NVR combo would.
( it is possible to get a camera + NVR that can do the "IVS" ( Dahua ) / "smart event" ( Hik ) advanced features - just need to really pay attention to the camera specs and NVR specs.. which can be a bit of a pita when looking for deals )

Do take a look at some of the reviews on the starlight and starlight+ cameras which members here have been doing, as they will probably work better for areas of you home which have less light during the late / early hours of the day.

 

[wickedstangs]

Start your journey here by studying this: Cliff Notes.

Looking for a better camera for night time. Is the 2MP still better than 3 or 4 MP camera?

• Megapixel (MP) Mania: 4K / 8 MP cameras are great in daylight, but 2 MP cameras (specifically with 1/2.8" sensors or bigger <i.e. 1/1.8">) are almost always better at night. The most important parameters for obtaining a good image in low light are: sensor model and size, f stop, lens quality, and software / firmware; see this comparison.

 

[sebastiantombs]

Don't chase megapixels! Chase sensor size! There is a relationship between resolution and sensor size when it comes to good video for both night and day. Daytime isn't much of a problem because there's enough light for any camera, but at night when we want them to work well, there is a definite relationship between the two. The current goto camera series is the 5442 line from Dahua, 4MP on a 1/1.8" sensor, or the equivalent from Hikvision. The new 8MP camera on a 1/1.2" sensor is just as good but the chips are hard to get so the supply is very low. Dahua has also just released a camera, for initial testing, that uses a 1/1.8" and a 1/2.7" (I think) for a 8MP camera. It "combines" both images to produce color in, essentially, no light situations. Bottom line is that every camera needs some light to see in color.

The sensor size/megapixel relationships that work -

720P - 1/3" = .333"
2MP - 1/2.8" = .357" (think a .38 caliber bullet)
4MP - 1/1.8" = .555" (bigger than a .50 caliber bullet or ball)
8MP - 1/1.2" = .833" (bigger than a 20mm chain gun round)