Its new under warranty.. Didn't see anything else comparative really, maybe a dented one for a little less... Drives are external, stated that earlier in the thread. Time isn't a lot of what I have right now, it be waiting for a great deal i hope i catch, or digging up all the parts and building another... I normally build, but this was quick and now.. done and over with.Too expensive... Where are you going to put your drives??