Israel attacked by Hamas...

d5775927 said:
It always easier to attack than defend, especially when you have people living less than a mile from the border.

If Mexicans wanted to breach the US border, to attack the US, I'm sure they can succeed.
You cannot defend the border 24/7, especially if it's breached from multiple places concurrently.
However, no one sane will do that to the US, because the response will be very non proportional and no other nation will even say a word regarding the US response.
Also, Mexicans are much more sane than Gazans or Houthis.

So basically you cannot rely on intel or advanced tech to stop terrorist that live in tunnels less than a mile from your border.
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If Mexicans wanted to breach the US border, to attack the US, I'm sure they can succeed.
Sorry but for us this is funny, Mexicans have already Invaded our country...in Texas they make up the majority...

Those tunnels, were there tunnels that came across the border?

All countries around ya'll, except Jordan, hate ya'll, and only want death. Mexico and Canada are much different neighbors for us. We have to deal with Mexico's Cartel but we are their drug customers. To attack us would be attacking their profit...

When we were entering the Lion's Gate this is what we saw which leads to the Muslim Quarter of the old City which is very much like Mexico's border...
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honestly, I do not see peace coming soon between Palestinians and Israel .. just finding it hard to imagine

 
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David L said:
Those tunnels, were there tunnels that came across the border?
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In this war no, in previous wars there were tunnels crossing into Israel.
Israel installed underground fence/wall with sensor that detect tunnels somehow.
But, this didn't prevent Hamas from building many tunnels in Gaza that reach until the border, some of the tunnels are wide/tall enough to allow vehicle movement.
The tunnels in Gaza are deep and interconnected and cross all Gaza, like metro lines.
They also proof them against drones/dogs, they have steel walls, that prevent none humans to survey them.
Also, they have cameras and mines.

Of course they also have hostages, so the covered all bases.
mat200 said:
honestly, I do not see peace coming soon between Palestinians and Israel .. just finding it hard to imagine

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Yes, the war will last forever or until one side is expelled from his land.
 
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d5775927 said:
In this war no, in previous wars there were tunnels crossing into Israel.
Israel installed underground fence/wall with sensor that detect tunnels somehow.
But, this didn't prevent Hamas from building many tunnels in Gaza that reach until the border, some of the tunnels are wide/tall enough to allow vehicle movement.
The tunnels in Gaza are deep and interconnected and cross all Gaza, like metro lines.
They also proof them against drones/dogs, they have steel walls, that prevent none humans to survey them.
Also, they have cameras and mines.

Of course they also have hostages, so the covered all bases.

Yes, the war will last forever or until one side is expelled from his land.
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I am still for flooding the tunnels. I know hostages will die, so many already have though and it will save 10x the lives in the long run...I am one that would give my life so others can live...

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No one has greater love than this--that one lays down his life for his friends
 
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David L said:


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This guy makes too much sense so the fake media just says "nothing to see here, move along".

p.s. Most of those Gazans look a lot more healthy than the fat ass Americans I see waddling down the street. LOL
 
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Sybertiger said:
This guy makes too much sense so the fake media just says "nothing to see here, move along".

p.s. Most of those Gazans look a lot more healthy than the fat ass Americans I see waddling down the street. LOL
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To me it is easy to see what is going on here, the smear campaign...we knew this would be coming, not the first time we have seen lies from MSM with pictures not even from the events they are lying about.

I like when he says, where is the cry for Yemen and Sudan? Those who are really starving...
 
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So its all fake? LOL :rofl:

So NOBODY is telling the truth but your guy?









































 
Still not buying it...I watched all of the above. Not one Starving individual...

Did Israel hold back aid, yes, to starve the people? Sure Great plan, that will get the world on their side. Not buying that...to control who gets the aid, not Hamas...ok that makes sense.

Big question...when in war are you suppose to feed your enemy? Hamas? Starve them...eliminate them...OR get ready for the next round of murdering, raping, burning babies, hostages. etc. from these less than human Terrorists...

Face the Nation? Really? LOL
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bigredfish said:
We'll just have to disagree.
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So my wife corrected me on my "Let Hamas starve" statement. Our Lord tells us to Love our Enemies. WOW, how miserably I fail on this commandment...

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I;m not Pro Hamas by any means, I'm anti genocide and at this point anti Israel
 
d5775927 said:
They tried to flood, it didn't work, maybe the tunnels are too long/deep to flood.
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I see only 1 solution to Israel's problem and it might be a risk reducer, not a fix and that's to annexe Gaza and instead trade it for land in the West Bank. At least this put's Palestians in 1 area. At the moment Israel has them in 2 making almost a pincer movement on it's land and Gaza gives Hamas access to the ocean which makes importing arms easier than overland. An Isaraeli Gazan strip would unify the area into 2 distinct countries instead of 3 distinct areas.
 
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CCTVCam said:
I see only 1 solution to Israel's problem and it might be a risk reducer, not a fix and that's to annexe Gaza and instead trade it for land in the West Bank. At least this put's Palestians in 1 area. At the moment Israel has them in 2 making almost a pincer movement on it's land and Gaza gives Hamas access to the ocean which makes importing arms easier than overland. An Isaraeli Gazan strip would unify the area into 2 distinct countries instead of 3 distinct areas.
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Sounds like a good idea, but when you say trade, you mean, buy Gaza for money?
If so, Gazans would probably not agree to that.
 
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bigredfish said:
I;m not Pro Hamas by any means, I'm anti genocide and at this point anti Israel
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I've never been in Gaza and cannot tell what exactly is going on there.
What I do know, is that they are holding civilians as hostages, for almost two years, the civilians are starved and tortured and some of them are already dead.
Let me remind you that Hamas started this war and doesn't want to end it by returning the hostages.
You cannot differentiate Hamas from Gazans, since, Hamas lives in the same place Gazans live and doesn't wear uniform, which means more "univloved" causalities.
I don't claim the IDF is totally innocent and always fight by the rules, but mostly they do try (or at least this is what I believe).


What do you think Russia or the US would have done to Gaza if they were in the shoes of Israel?
 
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