Jennov 8mp POE PTZ

BobW55

BobW55

Getting the hang of it
Apr 8, 2015
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The PTZ I had on my garage started to fail (IR Lights do not always work) So I was looking for a replacement. I wanted something that could track but also be inexpensive (Fixed income). A friend said he got one of these Jennov cameras and he was very happy with it.
So I picked up a Jennov 8mp PTZ with 20X optical and 10X Digital Zoom. [ model P87HM85-30X-EAS] (Jury is still out on the zoom)
Hooked right up to my HIKvision DS-7616N1-12-16P NVR. I had trouble to where it kept locking onto my van and my neighbors car. Could not figure out how to turn off the vehicle tracking. Jennov replied to my email about 2 hours after I sent it. I totally forgot about logging into the cameras WEBGUI. Quick log in and many options on what to track or not track. Human, Car, Motorcycle, Ebike, Bicycle or Fire. Not sure about the fire part, and wish there was an animal.
Anyway deselected everything and left human on.
Picture of what it sees.
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The camera picked me up (Draws box around target) coming out my front door and down the ramp towards the camera. It lost me when I was right next to it, but picked me up again when I walk to the left of the image. Followed me all the way over to my neighbors house, even zooming in a bit as it did. Color rendition is good and night vision is on par with any other sub $200 camera. I have not figured out yet if it has a parked position so I can have my HIKvision fixed camera trigger it to look its way. Audio pickup is excellent (may need a wind screen). I can easily hear cars and trucks going by which trigger motion recording. I also have a Sunba Illuminattiwhich was twice the price and has a mind of its own when it comes to tracking. I am goin to give this a few more days, but may replace the Sunba and other no name PTZ with the Jennov.
Here is full zoom of the mail boxes across the street.
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I just got this today and I am testing with my Hikvision NVR. Couldn't connect it to the NVR yet but no problem from phone. Will try the NVR later again.

Did you keep this camera? How did it work since May? Did you try other auto tracking cameras beside this? It's amazing how cheap this is.
 
blocksog said:
I just got this today and I am testing with my Hikvision NVR. Couldn't connect it to the NVR yet but no problem from phone. Will try the NVR later again.

Did you keep this camera? How did it work since May? Did you try other auto tracking cameras beside this? It's amazing how cheap this is.
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Liked it well enough I now have 4 of them. To connect to my HKvision NVR I had to use port 8000 and HIKvision protocol then they connected right up to my NVR (Model DS-7616NI-I2 / 16P) settings.png192.168.1.200_09_20241213161552553.jpg
 
blocksog said:
Does it integrate with Acuaense, i.e. does it pass on human/vehicle detectoon information to the NVR ?
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That I do not know. I do not use those features. The one on the back of my garage is more of a critter cam.
 
Sorry to keep asking, but your experience is very useful. I am hoping it can follow or zoom at cars that pass in front of my house so maybe I can read license plates of needed. Do you have experience with it tracking cars, does it help with zooming in and improving plate readability?

Thanks.
 
blocksog said:
Sorry to keep asking, but your experience is very useful. I am hoping it can follow or zoom at cars that pass in front of my house so maybe I can read license plates of needed. Do you have experience with it tracking cars, does it help with zooming in and improving plate readability?

Thanks.
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Here is an idea, This is older video and may not have good audio, However it does show what I have done in past to get plates going in 2 direction with PTZ camera and static cameras. Just an idea of how you can setup your camera if you have other static cameras with Tripwires or other VCA events to trigger your PTZ .. Again this is just an idea. Olders cameras Quality isn't same as todays setup.

 
blocksog said:
Sorry to keep asking, but your experience is very useful. I am hoping it can follow or zoom at cars that pass in front of my house so maybe I can read license plates of needed. Do you have experience with it tracking cars, does it help with zooming in and improving plate readability?

Thanks.
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I have one on the front of my house. When pointed (Parked) facing out to the street (30 MPH) it will lock onto and track cars that are not speeding. I will loose them in the trees. This is far left and right of its FOV .192.168.1.200_02_20241213172533376.jpg192.168.1.200_02_20241213172559756.jpg
Its mounted up on the edge of my roof. To do license plates it probably needs to be mounted at street level.
 
@Revo2Maxx , very cool idea. Good to know.



@BobW55 , I am fighting to get the camera connected to the NVR without success. Changed the camera password the same as NVR, nothing. Plugged the DC input beside the Ethernet in case the NVR is not producing enough power still nothing. Changed the PoE port used on the NVRz nothing. The NVR shows "No Devices Connected" in red text. Checking the PoE consumption shows that the camera is taking 10-11watts, and the camera is on with IR lights. But itllthe NVR is not connecting with it.



I also tried to add the camera manually but feels like the camera is not getting an IP at all from the NVR. Yet, when I give power via DC, the camera says "Internet connection failed" as soon as I unplug the Ethernet cable to the NVR.

Also reset the camera and it's all the same again.

Maybe Hikvision has done something to preventing third party cameras in recent models. What Firmware do you have on yours? My NVR is a DS-7616nxi-i2 with firmware v5.03.010 build 240606.
 
blocksog said:
@Revo2Maxx , very cool idea. Good to know.



@BobW55 , I am fighting to get the camera connected to the NVR without success. Changed the camera password the same as NVR, nothing. Plugged the DC input beside the Ethernet in case the NVR is not producing enough power still nothing. Changed the PoE port used on the NVRz nothing. The NVR shows "No Devices Connected" in red text. Checking the PoE consumption shows that the camera is taking 10-11watts, and the camera is on with IR lights. But itllthe NVR is not connecting with it.



I also tried to add the camera manually but feels like the camera is not getting an IP at all from the NVR. Yet, when I give power via DC, the camera says "Internet connection failed" as soon as I unplug the Ethernet cable to the NVR.

Also reset the camera and it's all the same again.

Maybe Hikvision has done something to preventing third party cameras in recent models. What Firmware do you have on yours? My NVR is a DS-7616nxi-i2 with firmware v5.03.010 build 240606.
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Firmware Version
V4.60.005 build 220108
Encoding Version
V5.0 build 211130
Hardware Version
0100054104000000
Web Version
V4.5.0 build 211101
Plugin Version
V3.0.7.41
 
blocksog said:
Ahhh, maybe the problem is my newer NVR firmware. I will contact Jennv for a solution.
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Takes them a day, but Jennov have been very responsive to my emails. Well thay still have not made firmware so it will track animals.
 
Jennov answered and then I talked on the phone with Jonnathan (located in Asia). The responsiveness of the company is good, like they all are when they are still small.

I managed to connect the camera to the NVR after going in the camera web configuration in Configuration -> Network, and checking "All Subnet Onvif". The camera popped immediately in the live view.

But here is the problem:

The NVR is using the generic ONVIF stream on port 80 and not the Hikvision stream on port 8000, which probably means there is no VCA events coming from the camera, no human or vehicle detection information. I tried desperately to have the NVR tap on port 8000 without success, they have disabled all options to set the type of stream or the port. A google search shows that Hikvision does not allow third party cameras to connect using the Hikvision protocol.

@BobW55 you must have your camera connected via regular Onvif, too, right? Can you record only on camera motion, or human detection, or just search for those events?

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blocksog said:
Jennov answered and then I talked on the phone with Jonnathan (located in Asia). The responsiveness of the company is good, like they all are when they are still small.

I managed to connect the camera to the NVR after going in the camera web configuration in Configuration -> Network, and checking "All Subnet Onvif". The camera popped immediately in the live view.

But here is the problem:

The NVR is using the generic ONVIF stream on port 80 and not the Hikvision stream on port 8000, which probably means there is no VCA events coming from the camera, no human or vehicle detection information. I tried desperately to have the NVR tap on port 8000 without success, they have disabled all options to set the type of stream or the port. A google search shows that Hikvision does not allow third party cameras to connect using the Hikvision protocol.

@BobW55 you must have your camera connected via regular Onvif, too, right? Can you record only on camera motion, or human detection, or just search for those events?

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I have not tried directly on the NVR. Mine is in the basement, so I use the web interface to get into it. It only allows play back of any thing it has recorded. You have to log into the camera to set the objects you want tracked. Then you have to set PRESET 92 to activate the tracking. 2 of my Jennov cameras are directly connected to the NVR. The other 2 are via a POE Switch and carry IP addresses of my may main network. All 4 cameras are connected via HIKvision protocol and port 8000.
 
blocksog said:
The NVR is using the generic ONVIF stream on port 80 and not the Hikvision stream on port 8000, which probably means there is no VCA events coming from the camera, no human or vehicle detection information.
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That's going to depend on which ONVIF events the camera generates. They will generally be quite limited, maybe just motion detection.
You can see generated events if you connect to the camera with ONVIF Device Manager, the Events page will list what's being generated.

blocksog said:
A google search shows that Hikvision does not allow third party cameras to connect using the Hikvision protocol.
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Plenty of Chinese IP cameras incorporate a 'Hikserver' process that supports a varying level of the Hikvision protocol, and allows the camera to connect to a Hikvision NVR as if it was a native Hikvision product and communicate various event notifications.
 
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(I think) I managed to add the camera with the Hikvision protocol from the LAN. I tried the human detection playback from HikConnect and seemed to work to some degree.


Then I brought the camera to the NVR and tried to connect it to the PoE port. Put the camera password the same as the NVR before proceeding. After adding the camera manually and setting to HIKVISION protocol, the NVR tried to connect and failed with Certificate Verification Failed. I found other posts on use-ip.com complaining about this certificate issue after upgrading from firmware v4 to v5, so it's some new problem Hikvision is trying to create for non-hikvision cameras (although the other guy had a HIKVISION doorbell camera with this problem). I managed to add the camera with HIKVISION_RTSP protocol, which I think will lose the event metadata. But...

That camera shows offline in HikConnect when connecting through the HikConnect platform, and shows online and normally working with ptz functions in the same HikConnect app when I connect to the NVR via local LAN.

I may need to get a PoE switch just to trick the NVR into thinking the camera is in LAN and let using HIKVISION protocol. Either way, seems like Hikvision is trying hard to destroy any competition with third party cameras. They have learned a lesson or two from Apple.
 
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For me. the whole bottom line is a Sub $200 camera with ok ZOOM and PTZ ability that does human and vehicle tracking very well. I t will trigger motion recording with alarm or other camera recording triggers. My reolink doorbell camera will not do motion recording. I have a Jennov PTZ looking down my driveway, any motion it sees will also trigger the doorbell to record. All the cameras around my property are some for security, and others for more critter cams. I probably would not recommend these cameras in areas where good resolution is a must, or license plate reading. but to monitor an area and trigger other cameras or alarm events they would be fine.
 
These are my 4 Jennov PTZ cameras jennov2.png
They serve my purpose. I do wish the IR LEDs were not so visable at night. But then that in its self can be a deterent.
 
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