Klasipca?

[Mike]

Sorry, had to.

That guy completely disrespected (not just on the forum, behind closed doors) the moderators and trolled the hell out of the forum. He created other usernames and trolled from them too. Just because you didn't see everything, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Trust me, this place is better off w/o him.

 

[zero-degrees]

@Mike Please, Oh Please, delete this post and then lock this string with your picture as the final post! So, well played!

 

[Mike]

@Mike Please, Oh Please, delete this post and then lock this string with your picture as the final post! So, well played!

lol thanks for the compliment, but no need to close the thread. If people are wondering where he is, they should know how he trolled the hell out of the site and was banned, as any admin of any forum would have done.

 

[bob2701]

See, this is the kind of false passive aggressive accusations that get folks banned. I make my living in a field unrelated to technology. The developer of blue iris is Ken Peltzer..I understand from bug support replies that he farms out the android app. Stop spreading lies.

Now I am confused?? What lies are you saying that I am spreading?

 

[fenderman]

Now I am confused?? What lies are you saying that I am spreading?

"if you say so"....

 

[Mike]

Let's please just all give it a rest..Let's agree to disagree and move on.

 

[FlipNJ]

Man! Sorry I asked lol. I shall choose my words carefully, this site is a huge help to me as this field is a sort of hobby. I admit I was one of the sheep that bought a Longse based on the posted night image quality. Major issues but a new fw has made it reliable so far. Time will tell.

 

[tangent]

I have bought 2 of those 'crap' Huisun cameras... I might buy a 3rd.

Before you do that, do yourself a favor and try a hikvision or dahua turret. if nothing else I think you'll be amazed how much better the web interface works and how much more stable the camera is.

 

[fenderman]

Man! Sorry I asked lol. I shall choose my words carefully, this site is a huge help to me as this field is a sort of hobby. I admit I was one of the sheep that bought a Longse based on the posted night image quality. Major issues but a new fw has made it reliable so far. Time will tell.

Longse is unreliable as well. I have test unit with poe failure...

 

[Cljs]

Before you do that, do yourself a favor and try a hikvision or dahua turret. if nothing else I think you'll be amazed how much better the web interface works and how much more stable the camera is.

Thanks for the advice, but as a matter of fact I do have a Hikvision DS-2CD2342WD-I turret,


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZSHE66/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Right now, I have installed it to monitor my chicken coop/chicken run, which was recently attacked by a large animal (bear?) at night. I'm sure it will come back and I installed the Hikvision to monitor the area.

As it happens, one of my Huisuns was also in the vicinity. I used the PTZ to zoom in on the coop that was attacked.

Compare the images for yourself:

Hikvision Turret

Dropbox - Cam9.20161108_202549.jpg

Huisun PTZ

Dropbox - Cam8.20161108_202400.jpg

The Huisun image just looks better to me, IR seems to be more effective, the fact that I could use PTZ to zoom right into the area of interest without physically moving the camera was a huge plus.

Now I know that there will be recommendations about my image settings on the Hikvision, comments that it is a 4 MP camera and night images are expected to suffer, etc.

(Sorry can't get the images to appear, the links should work)

 

[fenderman]

Now I know that there will be recommendations about my image settings on the Hikvision, comments that it is a 4 MP camera and night images are expected to suffer, etc.

yes you are comparing apples to oranges...you cannot compare a 4mp camera to a 2mp with similar sensor size...the 2mp will be better at night...my 1.3mp dahuas outperform all of these at night and low light...my 2mp dahua mini dome from years ago with no ir or cut filter outperforms the the husuin and longse 5mp imx178 with some regular lighting..I have both the longse and dahua in day color mode only...the 2mp dahua is better.

 

[Cljs]

yes you are comparing apples to oranges...you cannot compare a 4mp camera to a 2mp with similar sensor size...the 2mp will be better at night...my 1.3mp dahuas outperform all of these at night and low light...my 2mp dahua mini dome from years ago with no ir or cut filter outperforms the the husuin and longse 5mp imx178 with some regular lighting..I have both the longse and dahua in day color mode only...the 2mp dahua is better.

Fair enough. The point is, the Huisun is very functional, web interface is fine, much better than the cameras I bought from Empire Security, ('NVT's or whatever. I do agree, the Hikvision interface is excellent). And for an extra 30% cost, I got PTZ (with IP66), which has proven very helpful in this case. I really like the images, day and night. So even owning a Hik turret, I still might buy another Huisun.

 

[fenderman]

Fair enough. The point is, the Huisun is very functional, web interface is fine, much better than the cameras I bought from Empire Security, ('NVT's or whatever. I do agree, the Hikvision interface is excellent). And for an extra 30% cost, I got PTZ (with IP66), which has proven very helpful in this case. I really like the images, day and night. So even owning a Hik turret, I still might buy another Huisun.

They are functional until they die...that not a big deal if watching your chicken coop, not as a surveillance camera. Same with the longse garbage..

 

[Cljs]

They are functional until they die...that not a big deal if watching your chicken coop, not as a surveillance camera. Same with the longse garbage..

It's a philosophical thing. Some people want a higher reputation brand item that presumably will be more durable. Others want maximum features at a bargain price, and are willing to take a chance on failure. When I bought the Huisuns, I chose the latter option, and so far have been happy with my choice. Agreed, my applications are hobby level and not professional.If either one of my Huisuns fails I will certainly advise the forum.

Curious, are you aware of anyone doing a tear down of a Huisun to determine the quality of design/components/assembly?

 

[fenderman]

Curious, are you aware of anyone doing a tear down of a Huisun to determine the quality of design/components/assembly?

No...it would require lots of technical knowledge to evaluate the components at the board level. Murphy's law would dictate that the camera will fail when you need it most....There are lots of others who praised the husiun until theirs crapped out on them..

 

[NVR]

I have 5 Huisun v1 installed, 2 for LPR and 3 fixed. I think they averaged $140 a cam. They have been great performers for our needs, every plate is captured and awesome night shots outdoor. When these were purchased one Hik PTZ was over $600, the Huisun was a sound decision then as again they are and remain great performers.

The longse was brought into the spot lite as several members were searching for larger sensors instead of the new 1/1.8 over priced Hik. Longse advertised the same size sensor.


The 4mp none wd Turrets are great indoors for night and day, however they suck outdoors even with a flood light directly aiming in the same direction. You will see severe ghosting with the slightest of motion.

I dont know if the Hik PTZ performs better but with a clip like this and considering its price, we made the right choice and thankful for whomever brought this camera here.

 

[Q™]

I have 6 Longse cameras, in addition to Hikvision and Dahua units. I have zero POE issues with my Longse cameras; the units with IMX178 sensors -- especially the LBW60S500 -- record superior night vision images. Didn't care all that much for Klasipca...love the IMX178 Longse cameras.

 

[Ssayer]

@Cljs: Reading the reviews for that Hik link you posted on Amazon, I see that what you have is actually a grey market version of that cam. So... you have what you have, but it may or may not be up to snuff....

 

[Cljs]

Perhaps your labelling is the wrong way around, I don't know...but what you have labelled as the Hikvision camera picture looks way better than the picture you labelled as the Huisun. Either way, you need to put the cameras in the same position and with the same external light conditions for a real comparison.

Really? (not mislabeled). I prefer the Huisun image, acknowledging that as a 4 MP camera it's low light performance is not expected to be great.

As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

But this was not supposed to be a scientific comparison of cameras, just a gestalt opinion in response to a suggestion that I try a Hikvision turret and that I will probably find it far preferable.

 

[Cljs]

@Cljs: Reading the reviews for that Hik link you posted on Amazon, I see that what you have is actually a grey market version of that cam. So... you have what you have, but it may or may not be up to snuff....

Curious, was not aware that grey market cameras should perform any differently than 'full retail.' I thought the differences would be related to warranty, firmware upgrades etc.