Little Overwhelmed - Swimming Pool PTZ System Advice

[CYANiDE]

Any thought to doing away with the PTZ and going with a multi-sensor camera? Arecont (meh), Axis, Avigilon, etc all have different variations out there that give some really good picture and coverage. If it is pitch black at night, I would definitely recommend going with a separate IR and never having to worry if you have good footage.

 

[ogden]

Any thought to doing away with the PTZ and going with a multi-sensor camera? Arecont (meh), Axis, Avigilon, etc all have different variations out there that give some really good picture and coverage. If it is pitch black at night, I would definitely recommend going with a separate IR and never having to worry if you have good footage.

I'm open to the idea I just happened to pick Dahua and rolled with it. Would you be able to give a specific setup that might be applicable? My main concern is accurate face ID at night from about 75ft. I know the Axis camera's I currently utilize at work don't have great low light but that was never their intended purpose.

I should also note the nayr's awesome reviews of the Dahua models steered me more towards them.

 

[CaliGirl]

Curious. Is notifying the cops when you see them hop the fence on camera and catching them in the act out of the question? Or do you anticipate a facial ID is going to make all the difference?

If you want to keep it simpler. I'd install 2 cameras with IVS to give me push notifications to my phone. When I they are on property I'd switch apps and activate a very loud siren and strobe lights via a wifi remote plug. No one is going to stay in the pool hearing that. After a few times, they will realize it isn't a place worth hanging out. And call the cops if they stay. Put up a few signs outside the fence where they like to approach, to deter them.

$52

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[Mikeee]

Curious. Is notifying the cops when you see them hop the fence on camera and catching them in the act out of the question? Or do you anticipate a facial ID is going to make all the difference?

If you want to keep it simpler. I'd install 2 cameras with IVS to give me push notifications to my phone. When I they are on property I'd switch apps and activate a very loud siren and strobe lights via a wifi remote plug. No one is going to stay in the pool hearing that. After a few times, they will realize it isn't a place worth hanging out. And call the cops if they stay. Put up a few signs outside the fence where they like to approach, to deter them.

$52

SECO-LARM SL-126Q/R Red Security Strobe Light - Commercial Strobe Lights - Amazon.com
Amazon.com: SECO-LARM SL-126Q/B Blue Strobe Light; For 6- to 12-Volt use; For "informative" general signaling requirements; Incorrect polarity cannot damage circuit or draw current; Easy 2-wire installation, regardless of voltage: Musical Instruments
Ankuoo NEO Smart Plug, Wi-Fi, White - - Amazon.com

This is soo loud! Amazon.com: Honeywell WAVE-2 Two Tone Siren: Home Improvement

This is a good idea imo I don't think a ptz is correct for this location unless you are operating it in real time.

 

[ogden]

I may start with a simple system with 3x cameras and tripwire defined around the perimeter that just notifies board members and pages the neighbor that would be responsible for reporting it too police. I know the association really wants to I'd them but it might not be nessicary as you've stated and would keep the total cost of ownership down along with the creep factor lol.

 

[looney2ns]

Okay so I have coverage with the following setups but I'm having trouble deciding between a few things:
Common Parts:
Dell i5 6500 8G Ram 250G SSD & 8TB Purple
TP-Link 8-port PoE+
Blue Iris

Overview Cams:
4x IPC-HDW5231R-Z
vs
4x IPC-HFW5231E-Z5
Do the benefits outweigh the $30 difference per camera? My max shot is only about 85 ft on one camera and so should I do a mix and get the better for the one long shot?

PTZ Options:
SD59230U-HNI
SD49212T-HN
I really like the 59230 but besides the zoom (12x is more than enough in my scenario) what is the big difference between the Pro and the Lite? Does it really justify double the cost?

Again I am just trying to cover bases here with people that are better informed and thank you all for the amount of help. It's been a great experience here.

Here are the differences, look at the DORI specs, they give you an idea of what ranges an ID can be made.
The z5 has stronger IR as well.
IPC-HFW5231E-Z5 | Dahua Technology

http://www1.dahuasecurity.com/products/ipc-hdw5231r-z-3651.html

Compare the PTZ's:
http://www1.dahuasecurity.com/products/sd59230u-hni-2941.html

http://www1.dahuasecurity.com/products/sd49212t-hn-11761.html

Then there is this one, that's a little cheaper and has less zoom.
http://www1.dahuasecurity.com/products/sd59225u-hni-2881.html

 

[CaliGirl]

How did it go?

 

[ogden]

Ended up borrowing a HFW5231E-Z5 and testing it out from a local contact and was able to get about 30% of the deck covered with faces visible just beyond the deck at night. I'm planning on ordering 4x for full coverage and then 3 turrets for building entry points. That said I've already caught one of the vandals faces with the test rig and turned that over to authorities who were quickly able to ID the troublemaker. I appreciate all the help of the forum as there's a ton to sift through when setting up a system anymore!

 

[Mikeee]

Probably won't need much more once one kid gets bagged word travels fast.