Looking at DMP Cameras

[vidman]

Hi everyone,
I purchased a new home and I'm looking to replace the old cameras (coax) with new ones. I'll be installing a DMP alarm system and they happen to have something called the virtual keypad which lets you monitor the cameras and the alarm system in one place. It would be convenient to do that all in one place. They have the V-5054D camera which is a 4mp camera and I was wondering what you guys thought of this? I believe it's a rebranded Hikvision camera? Any help appreciated.

 

[SouthernYankee]

There are very little useful specs on the V-5054D camera. Do not use a dome camera as you will spend your time cleaning it off and it reflects light and IR at night.
Start with one good quality variable focus camera, test mounting location and the correct lens setting.

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Quick start
1) If you do not have a wired monitored alarm system, get that first
2) Use Dahua starlight cameras or Hikvision darkfighter cameras if you need good low light cameras.
3) Start with a good variable focus camera, so you test for the correct lens,lighting, camera placement.
4) use a VPN to access home network (openVPN)
5) Do not use wifi cameras.
6) Do not use cloud storage
7) Do Not use uPNP, P2P, QR, do not open ports,
8) More megapixel is not necessarily better.
9) Avoid chinese hacked cameras (most ebay, amazon, aliexpress cameras(not all, but most))
10) Do not use reolink, ring, nest, Arlo, Vivint cameras (they are junk), no cloud cameras
11) If possible use a turret camera , bullet collect spiders, dome collect dirt and reflect light (IR)
12) Use only solid copper, AWG 23 or 24 ethernet wire. , no CCA (Copper Clad Aluminum)
13) use a test mount to verify the camera mount location. My test rig: rev.2
14) (Looney2ns)If you want to be able to ID faces, don't mount cams higher than 7ft. You want to know who did it, not just what happened.
15) Use a router that has openVPN built in (Most ASUS, Some NetGear....)
16) camera placement use the calculator... IPVM Camera Calculator
17) POE list PoE Switch Suggestion List
18) Camera Sensor size, bigger is general better Sensor Size Chart
19) Camera lens size, a bigger number give more range but less field of view. Which Security Camera Lens Size Should I Buy?
20) verify your camera placement, have a friend wearing a hoodie, ball cap and sunglasses looking down approach the house, can you identify them at night ?
21) DO NOT UPGRADE your NVR or camera unless you absolutely have a problem that needs to be fixed and known what you are doing, if you do you will turn it into a brick !!

Cameras to look at
IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED . Review IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED (Full Color, Starlight+) - 4MP starlight
.................... Dahua IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED review
IPC-T5442TM-AS ..... Review-OEM 4mp AI Cam IPC-T5442TM-AS Starlight+ - 4MP starlight+
IPC-HDW5442t-ZE .... Dahua IPC-HDW5442T-ZE 4MP Varifocal Turret - Night Perfomance testing -- variable focus 2.7 mm-12mm 4 MP Starlight
IPC-B5442E-ZE ...... Review - OEM IPC-B5442E-ZE 4MP AI Varifocal Bullet Camera With Starlight+ -- variable 2.7mm-12mm bullet
IPC-B5442E-Z4E .... bullet 8mm-32mm variable focus zoom 4MP
IPC-HFW7442H-Z ..... Review - Dahua IPC-HFW7442H-Z 4MP Ultra AI Varifocal Bullet Camera -- 4 MP variable focus AI

My preferred indoor cameras
DS-2CD2442FWD-IW
IPC-K35A

https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/review-dahua-ipc-k35a-3mp-cube-camera.37581/#post-373517

IPC-K42A

Read,study,plan before spending money ..... plan plan plan
To save money do it right the first time.
Test do not guess

 

[vidman]

Thanks for the response. So get a turret camera instead?
I don't think DMP offers that option but I had a bright idea of possibly using a DMP NVR with non DMP cameras. Maybe using Hikvision cameras with their NVR could work?

 

[vidman]

I just spoke to DMP and they said that as long as the cameras are Onvif 2.0+ they should work with the NVR and we can still use the Virtual Keypad application. With that bit of information, would Dahua cameras also work?

 

[SouthernYankee]

it is recommend on this forum is to NOT mix manufactures of NVR and cameras you will lose functionality of the camera and NVR. A good NVR supports all functions of the camera. I would stick with either Dahua or Hikvision. A lot of installers do a crap job of installing cameras for surveillance. You need to figure out where you need your cameras to meet Your need and requirements. Depending on where you live and the complexity of the cabling, a single ethernet drop can cost between $50 and $ 200.

Cameras on my house
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1) the front door needs three cameras, one doorbell camera, one pointing at the package drop area, one pointing back to the front door.
2) the garage entrance Needs two cameras pointing out mounted no higher than the top of the garage door.
3) the inside of the garage need two cameras one point at the garage door and one point at the house entrance
4) each entrance to the house must be covered by a camera.
5) each camera must be covered by another camera, If i can destroy a camera it must be covered, recorded by another camera.
6) in my house all public areas inside are covered, kitchen, living room, dining room, halls, game room, den
7) all outside doors are covered by a camera inside, pointing out.