Malibu Fires

No they can stay as long as needed
 
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TonyR said:
I heard from a talk radio host yesterday that Newlittle vetoed a bill that would allow the insurance companies to raise rates according to new risks or increased risks (winds, drought, underbrush, staffing funds diverted to Ukraine, surplus equipment sent to Ukraine, etc.) so many have cancelled and/or pulled out of Kommiefornia.

If so, I really can't blame them. They are not a charity and cannot stay in business and pay claims if they cannot REASONABLY and EQUITABLY APPLY rates according to risks, etc.
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Numerous issues created a perfect storm for the Fires :

Issues that are large and significant from what I can tell ..
Water management, Forestry management, Fire Department management funding / issues retaining personnel ( covid shot, DEI .. ) , preparation for "perfect storm" fire event .. by December 1 they should have known Santa Anas are coming out and it is super dry.

Yes, I do understand that both the Democrats and Republicans will throw out whatever arguments ( mud slinging ) they can to make the other side look bad.

There are PLENTY of good solid reasons to attribute poor governance to the Democrats of Kaliforia, however the donated equipment is at best a minor issue here for the worlds 5th economic power house ( People's Republik of Kalifornia )

Donations to Ukraine of Fire Equipment ( old surplus goods which LA area fire departments no longer were going to use, often donated to Mexico - was rerouted to Ukraine ) .. they've had 2 years to replace any equipment they need for stand by.

Thus, logically .. using this as an argument to sully the Democrats of Kalifornia really is not a valid one, as the equipment would have gone to Mexico as it has numerous times in the past.

This is an example of the USA to Mexico fire fighting donation "trade"

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Excellent point ..

"“ It’s kind of like a plan !” Months before the historic flood in NC , homeowners lost their flood coverage. Just before CA fires , homeowners lose their fire coverage. I’m sure that’s just a coincidences. Right ?"

Truth is that the insurance companies hire top notch data scientists, actuaries, statisticians, weather forecasters, climate scientists .. and others to help determine their risk levels and manage their risk.
With competent leadership they bailout of risky positions they forecast are coming, and leave their customers empty handed holding risky positions.

SO, when you see insurance bail on policies - it is time to ask what are they seeing in terms of Risk levels that our politicians are failing to do so ?
 
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bigredfish said:
Self reliance. What a concept. Doesnt he know he's supposed to let the gubmit handle these things?

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watching this :
I believe it is time to form Fire Militias in areas .. volunteer fire fighting crews ..
 
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Timokreon said:
There are such things as sea water compatible pumps, trucks, etc... made out of bronze and other materials. Also, look at fireboats.. they could have used them along the beach. Cost a ton of money, but they could purchase them if wanted/needed.

Also, look at the Coast Guard/Navy, etc.. think they use clean water to fight fires on everything? Normal pumps, hoses, etc.. can be used very easily. Just need to ensure proper filtering (seaweed, etc..) and flush everything out well with fresh water.

For democrats to say this is due to climate change (from what creepy Joe is trying to push), and not pure incompetence is bs. Newsom down to the mayor, fire chief, etc.. all had a part in why this happened. How they haven't all resigned in disgrace just shows you they don't give one damn about the people, only about money/power and themselves.

I don't care if you're a democrat, republican, independent, whatever... WE the people have got to do better. WE are the reason these disgusting individuals are in office. Until WE all realize it's not republican vs democrats, it's WE the people vs the hollywood elite, politicians, etc... things will never change for the better.

We WILL end up with two classes throughout the world. The filthy rich/elite and the poor.
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Very well said...

Burn the Middle Class out of their homes...is the Elite's Motto...
 
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mat200 said:
There are PLENTY of good solid reasons to attribute poor governance to the Democrats of Kaliforia, however the donated equipment is at best a minor issue here for the worlds 5th economic power house ( People's Republik of Kalifornia )

Donations to Ukraine of Fire Equipment ( old surplus goods which LA area fire departments no longer were going to use, often donated to Mexico - was rerouted to Ukraine ) .. they've had 2 years to replace any equipment they need for stand by.

Thus, logically .. using this as an argument to sully the Democrats of Kalifornia really is not a valid one, as the equipment would have gone to Mexico as it has numerous times in the past.
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That's YOUR opinion and you are entitled to it.
I feel that's a pretty weak point to lean on, but that's your prerogative.
Anyway, I don't intend to banter back and forth about it.
 
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This is really good, covers a lot of the critical issues ..

" .. we have these problems we get all these promises they don't get solved and Gavin Newsom is remarkedly good at acknowledging problems he is there to solve and not solving them and continuing to acknowledge that there's problems that need to be solved .. "

"Los Angeles is the land of luxury beliefs"

" I think there is a deeper cultural problem going on here and that is that too often our political class comes from the world of talkers, talkers not doers ... "

California’s “Leaders” Put DEI First. Now LA Is On Fire.
Dad Saves America

Jan 10, 2025 #wildfire #climatechange #gavinnewsom
Los Angeles is burning, and it’s not just a natural disaster—it’s a catastrophic failure of leadership. Politicians like Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass have prioritized virtue signaling their luxury beliefs over practical governance, blindly cutting firefighting budgets, ignoring long-running water and forest management issues, and then blaming “climate change” as the real culprit. Meanwhile, DEI initiatives have entirely overshadowed actually getting the job done when it comes to hiring key civil servants. This isn’t just about wildfires—it’s about what happens when we elect talkers instead of doers. California’s leaders have repeatedly failed their citizens, leaving them to suffer the consequences. What will it take for voters to finally demand accountability?

 
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TonyR said:
That's YOUR opinion and you are entitled to it.
I feel that's a pretty weak point to lean on, but that's your prerogative.
Anyway, I don't intend to banter back and forth about it.
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1) That's YOUR opinion and you are entitled to it.
actually, NO not my opinion, as that really is just a dismissive way to say I pulled it out of my behind without doing any research on it, really is is an assessment based on facts.

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and yet somehow it's Ukraine's fault .. instead of the larger actors in the game
 
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mat200 said:
Excellent point ..

"“ It’s kind of like a plan !” Months before the historic flood in NC , homeowners lost their flood coverage. Just before CA fires , homeowners lose their fire coverage. I’m sure that’s just a coincidences. Right ?"
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I’m actually surprised it took so long. When I was a kid, no one would consider building on the hills around LA because everyone knew they burned every few years. The hills became valuable view lots, but they were also the only land left in a lot of areas.

I never understood how they got insurance companies to write policies for those places. And lately the state insurance department has made it so unprofitable that big insurers started leaving the state. But really, they never should have written policies on houses on dry, windy hills.
 
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