Mini PTZ 2nd Gen: 2016 PTZ Camera of the year!
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Just to confirm.... you have your 1st gen Huisun PTZ controlled by your Hik DS-7608NI-E2 NVR? If so, I may need to order one of these!
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Check with Monica if the updated listings will get you a 2nd gen cam
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Yes, one of the main reasons why I actually bought it.Just to confirm.... you have your 1st gen Huisun PTZ controlled by your Hik DS-7608NI-E2 NVR? If so, I may need to order one of these!
thesleepy_slee
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Stupid question maybe, but is it possible to get the camera moving to some location with scripting? I am using CGI scripts to enable/disable PIR on some hiks that I have and it is powerful.
For example, pointing to a specific direction and zoom when I leave the house.
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For example, pointing to a specific direction and zoom when I leave the house.
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MacNCheese
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You would think so, because in reality that's all the web interface is doing - controllng the camera with scripts. There must be some sort of standard for PTZ controls because there you can control multiple different cameras from NVRs, Apps and PC Software.
thesleepy_slee
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Thanks, indeed there are some CGI commands for ptz, I was wondering if this cam was supporting the hikvision CGI commands for ptz. I will wait for feedback on this second gen, and then order one to check this.
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I needed to figure out the focal length of this camera in "real" camera equivalent and I thought I would share my results in case it helps someone else.
This 2016 camera has a sensor size of 1/2.8", which comes to 6.49 mm on the diagonal. To calculate the "crop factor" for any camera sensor, you need to compare it to the full frame standard. A "full frame" camera has a sensor size of 43.3 mm. In this case, 43.3 / 6.49 = 6.67.
So, now we can multiply the listed focal length of 5.1 mm to 51 mm by 6.67 to get the equivalent focal length in terms of a "normal" 35 mm camera: 34 - 340 mm.
So, if you have a fancy full-frame DSLR, what Nikon calls an FX sensor, you can use a zoom lens in the 34 - 340 mm range to simulate the view of this PTZ camera.
If you have a "crop sensor" DSLR, what Nikon calls a DX sensor, you have a crop factor of ~1.5. To simulate the "normal" 34-340 mm on that sensor size, you'd need a lens with a range of ~22 mm - 220 mm.
If you know the sensor size of your particular camera, you fan figure out the "crop factor" as above, and then how that camera maps to the focal lengths of any security camera you're interested in using.
Whew!
This 2016 camera has a sensor size of 1/2.8", which comes to 6.49 mm on the diagonal. To calculate the "crop factor" for any camera sensor, you need to compare it to the full frame standard. A "full frame" camera has a sensor size of 43.3 mm. In this case, 43.3 / 6.49 = 6.67.
So, now we can multiply the listed focal length of 5.1 mm to 51 mm by 6.67 to get the equivalent focal length in terms of a "normal" 35 mm camera: 34 - 340 mm.
So, if you have a fancy full-frame DSLR, what Nikon calls an FX sensor, you can use a zoom lens in the 34 - 340 mm range to simulate the view of this PTZ camera.
If you have a "crop sensor" DSLR, what Nikon calls a DX sensor, you have a crop factor of ~1.5. To simulate the "normal" 34-340 mm on that sensor size, you'd need a lens with a range of ~22 mm - 220 mm.
If you know the sensor size of your particular camera, you fan figure out the "crop factor" as above, and then how that camera maps to the focal lengths of any security camera you're interested in using.
Whew!
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you can try to packet sniffing and making your own script, i can move the cam pan to the left and to the right with my simple script, if there is spare time I try again, if you succeed please share with us good luck
sample packet data to move pan
request pan move
POST /onvif/ptz HTTP/1.1
Content-Type: application/soap+xml; charset=utf-8; action="http://www.onvif.org/ver20/ptz/wsdl/ContinuousMove"
Host: 10.52.10.110
Content-Length: 1050
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Connection: Close
<s:Envelope xmlns:s="http://www.w3.org/2003/05/soap-envelope"><s:Header><Security s:mustUnderstand="1" xmlns="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-wssecurity-secext-1.0.xsd"><UsernameToken><Username>admin</Username><Password Type="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-username-token-profile-1.0#PasswordDigest">oh2asILnA/xgpEUe5voOFXXYyXU=</Password><Nonce EncodingType="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-soap-message-security-1.0#Base64Binary">ZT10eVklsEqBDY747SQGuesAAAAAAA==</Nonce><Created xmlns="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-wssecurity-utility-1.0.xsd">2016-01-10T04:39:31.581Z</Created></UsernameToken></Security></s:Header><s:Body xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"><ContinuousMove xmlns="http://www.onvif.org/ver20/ptz/wsdl"><ProfileToken>protoken_1</ProfileToken><Velocity><PanTilt x="-0.5" y="0" xmlns="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/schema"/></Velocity></ContinuousMove></s:Body></s:Envelope>
camera respon
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Via: 1.1 tinyproxy (tinyproxy/1.8.3)
Set-Cookie: yummy_magical_cookie=/onvif/; path=/
Content-Type: application/soap+xml; charset=utf-8; action="http://www.onvif.org/ver20/ptz/wsdl/ContinuousMove"
Server: gSOAP/2.8
Content-Length: 3029
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<SOAP-ENV:Envelope xmlns:SOAP-ENV="http://www.w3.org/2003/05/soap-envelope" xmlns:SOAP-ENC="http://www.w3.org/2003/05/soap-encoding" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:wsa5="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2004/08/addressing" xmlns:c14n="http://www.w3.org/2001/10/xml-exc-c14n#" xmlns:wsu="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-wssecurity-utility-1.0.xsd" xmlns:xenc="http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" xmlns:ds="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns:wsse="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-wssecurity-secext-1.0.xsd" xmlns:wsa="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2004/08/addressing" xmlns:xmime="http://tempuri.org/xmime.xsd" xmlns:xop="http://www.w3.org/2004/08/xop/include" xmlns:wsrf-bf="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/bf-2" xmlns:d="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/04/discovery" xmlns:tt="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/schema" xmlns:wstop="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsn/t-1" xmlns:wsrf-r="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/r-2" xmlns:ns1="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/network/wsdl/RemoteDiscoveryBinding" xmlns:ns10="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/events/wsdl/PausableSubscriptionManagerBinding" xmlns:ns11="http://www.onvif.org/ver20/analytics/wsdl/RuleEngineBinding" xmlns:ns12="http://www.onvif.org/ver20/analytics/wsdl/AnalyticsEngineBinding" xmlns:tan="http://www.onvif.org/ver20/analytics/wsdl" xmlns:ns2="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/network/wsdl/DiscoveryLookupBinding" xmlns:dn="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/network/wsdl" xmlns:ns3="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/events/wsdl/PullPointSubscriptionBinding" xmlns:ns4="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/events/wsdl/EventBinding" xmlns:tev="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/events/wsdl" xmlns:ns5="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/events/wsdl/SubscriptionManagerBinding" xmlns:ns6="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/events/wsdl/NotificationProducerBinding" xmlns:ns7="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/events/wsdl/NotificationConsumerBinding" xmlns:ns8="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/events/wsdl/PullPointBinding" xmlns:ns9="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/events/wsdl/CreatePullPointBinding" xmlns:wsnt="http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsn/b-2" xmlns:tds="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/device/wsdl" xmlns:timg10="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/imaging/wsdl" xmlns:timg20="http://www.onvif.org/ver20/imaging/wsdl" xmlns:tptz10="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/ptz/wsdl" xmlns:tptz20="http://www.onvif.org/ver20/ptz/wsdl" xmlns:tmd="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/deviceIO/wsdl" xmlns:trt="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/media/wsdl" xmlns:ter="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/error" xmlns:tns1="http://www.onvif.org/ver10/topics" xmlns:tnsn="http://www.eventextension.com/2011/event/topics" xmlns:extwsd="http://www.onvifext.com/onvif/ext/ver10/wsdl" xmlns:extxsd="http://www.onvifext.com/onvif/ext/ver10/schema"><SOAP-ENV:Header></SOAP-ENV:Header><SOAP-ENV:Body><tptz20:ContinuousMoveResponse></tptz20:ContinuousMoveResponse></SOAP-ENV:Body></SOAP-ENV:Envelope>
The imporx quivalent model this http://it.aliexpress.com/store/prod...ood-night-vision-60M/1391450_32585655707.html
The LED IR length is 60m not 80m as old model.
In down of descriptions there is writed 80m IR. What is true ?
The LED IR length is 60m not 80m as old model.
In down of descriptions there is writed 80m IR. What is true ?
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- Mar 27, 2014
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- Mar 27, 2014
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As I was leaving for work DHL showed up with a surprise. It never happened before where delivery was made that early. Declared value is $80 which is roughly half of the price paid. Looks like they are listening, so might be safe to order 2x cams next time and avoid duty fees.
The box is still banged up, but cam seems ok. The logo is printed on it which I don't care too much (I preferred unmarked look) and for some reason it feels larger then previous Mini, but maybe I am just imagining things.
That's all for now...
The box is still banged up, but cam seems ok. The logo is printed on it which I don't care too much (I preferred unmarked look) and for some reason it feels larger then previous Mini, but maybe I am just imagining things.
That's all for now...
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Enjoy! I just wish they made a Half Dome PTZ which just looked like a normal turret.
That Huisun print on the side looks ugly. I hope it is available without it.
That Huisun print on the side looks ugly. I hope it is available without it.
Ssayer
BIT Beta Team
Heck, you paid on the 6th and already have yours. I paid on the 5th and mine has not been shipped yet. I'm jealous!!! 
Promod117
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Heck, you paid on the 6th and already have yours. I paid on the 5th and mine has not been shipped yet. I'm jealous!!!
Must have an inside connection!
im sure someone mentioned they are working on a dome ptz and I'm sure it won't take much effort to remove the logo.
im considering plasti dipping one. I'd like it to be a little less conspicuous to the casual passer by .
I noticed this thing: you have an original box, colorful. I for the old model I had a box rougher.
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It's a new box specific to the new model, but not much different and still not really reusable after transportation. They need to improve either with packing or make stronger boxes.