motion sensor doesn't seem to work

kailibuy

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here's my setting under Motion/Trigger.

http://snag.gy/fhLX8.jpg

It just doesn't work.

I try Trigger now. It works. But the sensor itself doesn't seem to work.
 

kailibuy

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any the camera itself is working as the foscam ipcam client works just fine with motion trigger.
 

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any the camera itself is working as the foscam ipcam client works just fine with motion trigger.
blue iris doesnt use the foscam trigger..its does its own motion detection..you need to change your settings to color+ brightness, not just color.
Also, make sure the profile that you make the changes to is active while you are testing.
 

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I understand. I tested on foscam software just to make sure the actual sensor works on the camera itself.

Yes, tried color+brightness, didn't work.
 

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I understand. I tested on foscam software just to make sure the actual sensor works on the camera itself.

Yes, tried color+brightness, didn't work.
Are you set to profile 2 when you are testing? there are distinct and separate settings for each profile.
delete the camera and the add it again.
 

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I'm actually a little bit confused of how to use different profiles. Here're what I'm trying to do,

1. record 24/7 continuously to my local hard drive and save images (snapshots) ever 1 minute to the ftp server.

At the same, I'd like to set it up to

2. for work-hour recording, I'd like to motion trigger an alert, then upload the a picture after the alert to ftp server.

for #1. I created a profile #3, "24/7", I'm able to record to the hard drive and take snapshots onto the hard drive. But I'm not able to post pictures onto the ftp site. Please see below for screenshots of the configuration.
http://snag.gy/KH9Cz.jpg
http://snag.gy/BQL2d.jpg
http://snag.gy/tairv.jpg

for #2, I created a profile #1, "work-hour", and also made the profile #1, #2 and #3 active on camera setting. See screenshots below,

http://snag.gy/WwLgm.jpg
http://snag.gy/i2oC7.jpg
http://snag.gy/m2Iy5.jpg
http://snag.gy/ugz1q.jpg

What am I doing wrong?

Am I using profiles correctly?
 

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for profile #1, the camera is not triggering alerts at all, put aside not uploading to ftp site.
 

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@kailibuy ok, you have it setup incorrectly..the first thing to understand is that only one profile can be active at any time for each camera....
Just to clarify you want to record 24/7 and save a snapshot every minuet but during work hours you also want to get an alert when the motion is detected and also upload an alert image?
 

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I see. Only one profile for one camera at a time. So how do you activate a particular profile?

Yes, I want to do 1) 24/7 continuous recording onto hard drive and 2) save snapshot every 1 minute onto hard drive, and 3) post images to ftp site ever 1 minute. Right now I am able to do this with the profile 3 "24/7" I set it up, except I can't post images to ftp.

Yes, I also like to get an alert when the motion is detected and an alert image is then uploaded to ftp site. I tried with a profile 1, "workhour". But motion detection doesn't work.
 

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@kailibuy You set the profiles in the global schedule...(you can manually override this on a per camera basis, but there is no need to in your case.)
Here is what you do...
You will need two profiles...in the global schedule, blue iris options>schedule (not the camera properties)...draw profile 1 for the hours you only want recordings and 1 min snapshots and profile 2 for the hours your want alerts and alert uploads...
Then go to the record tab of EACH camera and make sure its set to continuous record and all your preference for BOTH profile 1 and two...same for motion (you want motion settings for continuous recordings because the timeline will show when alerts occurred)..understand you need to make these changes for both profiles, there are independent motion, alert and recording settings for each profile.
Now go to the alert tab of each camera...make sure its set to NEVER for profile 1...then select profile to from the drop down and select fire when this camera is triggered.
For posting every minuet do the same thing you are doing...just select profile 1 and 2 then check both queue and image each 60 seconds AND queue and image when camera is triggered...
If you dont want an image uploaded every minuet during work hours or dont want an image uploaded on motion at other times you can do it, but it will require cloning a camera in blue iris...I wouldnt bother...
 

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Objective:

Profile 1: 24/7, 1)record continuously to hard drive 2)snapshot 1 minute to hard drive 3)upload to FTP every 1 minute
Profile 2: afterhour, active from 8pm to 8am everyday, alert with motion detected, then upload to FTP every 1 minute after the motion is detected.

1. so I followed your instruction, set up two profiles in global schedule and drew appropriate time frame. One is called "24/7" and the other is "afterhour"

2. In record tab, I set up the camera to continuous record for both profiles. However, I didn't set "create jpeg snapshot" every 1 minute as I had done in the past. Now I'm NOT getting 1 minute snap shot recorded to my hard drive. Am I supposed to set the snapshot option as well for 24/7 profile, but not for "afterhour".

3. In Motion tab, I enabled motion sensor for both profiles. I don't understand why I need enable it for continuous recording profile, 24/7.

4. In Alert tab, I set Never for 24/7 and fire when the camera is triggered for Afterhour.

http://snag.gy/60M8d.jpg

5. In Posting Tab, I followed what you described. See here,

http://snag.gy/o79lz.jpg

The problems,
1. for profile 24/7, I don't see the snapshot being recorded on the hard drive as before. I assume I need to select the option as well.
2 The problem remains with motion detection. It still doesn't detect motion or trigger an alert
3. On the ftp site, I notice the image is updated. What I'd like to do, is to keep the uploaded images in chronological order, not to be overridden and replaced as it is now.
 

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Objective
2) yes, you need to select create snapshot if you want it to record to hard drive.
3) I assumed you were using BI4, if you are, then when an event is triggered it is marked on the timeline so you can easily scroll to events...
problems
1) yes.
2)Check your traffic signal, make sure its green OR its not set to disable recording...blue iris options>other
3) it should not be replaced, in your old settings you set it to maintain a ring, but your new settings should not be deleting anything.
 

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actually, I'm using BI3.66.

Problems
2) yes, traffic light is green and the iris option/other is set as this,
http://snag.gy/kGavj.jpg
3) on my ftp site, I see only one file that's periodically updated every 1 minute. It doesn't maintain a set of pictures as I expect. Should I check it to maintain a ring of images as well?
 

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Did you recently purchase blue iris?
Yes set maintain a ring...just put a really high number...
As a test, add a new camera with the same ip address so now you have two cams displaying and test to see if the new camera will detect motion...
 

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yes, from walmart.

okay, set to maintain a ring, but it's not updating at 60 seconds interval. The interval between each 3-digit sequence varies 1-3 minutes.

unfortunately, I only have one foscam ip POE camera. I did test the motion detection/alert on foscam ipcam software. It worked fine.
 

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yes, from walmart.

okay, set to maintain a ring, but it's not updating at 60 seconds interval. The interval between each 3-digit sequence varies 1-3 minutes.

unfortunately, I only have one foscam ip POE camera. I did test the motion detection/alert on foscam ipcam software. It worked fine.
Ok, first things first...BI4 has been out since december 2014, so walmart or a third party vendor ripped you off...
Email the developer with proof of purchase and he will give you a key to BI 4...
http://blueirissoftware.com/contact/
Or return it to walmart..they scammed you.
Not sure why its not uploading every minuet..make sure blue iris is in the proper profile, top right of the screen.
 

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When you buy BI from Walmart and install the CD, it's BI3, but supposedly the key is for BI4 and you should download the latest BI version from the webpage. The same thing happened to me, and I was skeptical as to which version of BI I was ordering from Walmart because it didn't say in the description, so I figured I'll just order it and just return it if the box doesn't say BI4, but once it got here the CD case/CD didn't say what version it was. The only way to figure out what version of BI I was installing was after entering the key and starting the software. But once I figured out that I didn't get what I thought I was getting, it was too late... Luckily the software developer offers good support and exchanged me for a new key for BI4.
 

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Not sure if this helps but I found BI to be fairly stubborn when it came to motion detect compared to pretty much any other comparable piece of software. Most competitors can be set so sensitive that changes in sensor noise per frame or even the refresh of a TV monitor in the frame can set them off.

BI's default settings were worthless. I could walk into the middle of the frame and flip the camera off, and it *maybe* would start recording. Not good considering I'm using the software to monitor a pretty busy bar/nightclub and need after hours recording to be trusted in case of burglary or employee theft.

Disabling object detect / reject and shoving both sensitivity sliders as far as they can to the left now has recording working as it should. No issues now - just great software.
 
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