New Member looking to upgrade 8 year old system

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  1. aimbriano

    aimbriano n3wb

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    Hi all, Ive been in my house for 8 years now and at the time we had ran bnc siamese cable to our set camera locations. Stupidly i didnt run cat 5/6 to make my setup future proof. Currently my system is made by lts and i believe its 700tvl . Its a 16 channel setup. Im looking into an hdcvi or ahd system so i can reuse the existing analog wiring thats within my walls. I was doing a little research into dahua and noticed they have a reasonably priced kit that seems to be decent. Just dont know all too much about this technology and wether this would be the best setup. Just dont want to upgrade it now and have to upgrade again in a few years.

    This is the kit i have been looking at:

    4K HDCVI Security System – Dahua North America

    the cheapest im able to find it is at b&h photo for $1,149

    Dahua Technology Pentabrid 16-Channel 8MP HD-CVI DVR with 4TB HDD, 4 8MP Turret Cameras & 8 5MP Turret Cameras
     
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    You have options.

    With a Dahua XVR/HCVR you can run HDCVI cams as you mention, though I would advise not buying the box set and instead build your own and order from Andy @EMPIRETECANDY our resident Member/Distributor.
    He is a VERY trusted source and has his own forum here EmpireTech Andy

    I run CVI cameras myself and there are a ton of camera options. CVI cameras rival their IP brothers in selection and image quality up to and including 4K and AI - bigredfish59

    Look at the Dahua International site. A much better selection than the US version or US distributors like B&H
    HDCVI Cameras

    As to the recorder, thats where you want to make a wise investment. For a house, look at 2HDD systems, plan on (2) 4TB drives for starters
    Again lots to choose from https://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/allProducts/417
    I'd recommend the XVR 7200 series https://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/allProducts/417/6492?tab=6592
    Or if you can afford it, the newer Lite AI series https://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/allProducts/417/7257

    The nice thing is, the Dahua XVR/HCVR's allow you to run IP cameras along with your CVI cams.

    How does that work with RG59 cable installed? See my review of the Dahua ethernet over coax converter, it works Great!
    Review - Dahua Ethernet over Coax Converter/Extender LR1002-1ET/LR1002-1EC

    As another option you could go all IP with your RG59 using the converter above.
     
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    See dahua ePoe that allows network cameras over coax.
     
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    EMPIRETECANDY IPCT Vendor

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    aimbriano n3wb

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    Thanks everyone for the help.

    - I didnt know they had converters for coax to ethernet, seems like a good solution, however also seems to add up quickly. If im understanding this correctly each camera would need an lr1002, so figure around $80 each at 16 cameras. Plus after wards i would need to buy 16 ip cameras for my setup and so on. Would just put me way above my desired investment amount

    - I will reach out to empiretecandy to price out a setup that would be somewhat comparable to what b&h is offering.

    -The b&h setup shows it has 4 starlight cameras and 12 non starlight lower resolution cameras, from what ive read starlight makes a huge difference in nightvision. Can anyone chime in on the cameras in this kit, wheter theyre good or just the backend of the stock that theyre bundling to offload.
     
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    You may want to read up as those are all fixed wide angle 2.8mm lens cameras, you’ll likely want some variable focus cams to be able to zoom in to choke points for good ID.

    And that particular 5mp isn’t going to be very good at night.
     
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    looney2ns IPCT Contributor

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    YYZed Getting the hang of it

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    I'm in the middle of an upgrade from an old coax system, and in my opinion I think you'd be better off running new cable if at all possible. For the price spent per camera connection you are multiple times over what it would cost for Cat 6 cable, RJ45 connectors, and the tools to terminate it. I'd only use the coax at the very last resort. I spent $85 on 1000ft of Cat 6, and no more than $50 for the tools and connectors only because I wanted to use the pass through RJ45's to speed up making the terminations. You said it yourself that you don't want to upgrade it again, so if it were me (and I'm doing it), future proof that system NOW. Use the old cables to help pull the new ones.
     
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