Noob here to setting up NVR

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I just purchased empiretechs NVR with the POE switch’s on the back and cameras. I’m wanting to setup the cameras on their own network separate from my regular network. What I have read, there are two options VLAN or dual NICs and I’m not familiar with either one of them. My current setup is fiber to my Orbi wireless router and from router to my unmanaged network switch. Looking forward to the smart people on here. Sorry to ask probably silly questions but I’m a noob trying to learn. Thanks in advance for y’all’s help!
 
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If it's a POE NVR there's no need to set up a VLAN for the cameras, the NVR puts the cameras on their own private network and isolates them from the Internet.

You would then connect the NVR's LAN to either a LAN port on the router or to your unmanaged switch (assuming it's part of your LAN).

You access the cameras from a menu found in the NVR's embedded webGUI.
 
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If it's a POE NVR there's no need to set up a VLAN for the cameras, the NVR puts the cameras on their own private network and isolates them from the Internet.

You would then connect the NVR's LAN to either a LAN port on the router or to your unmanaged switch (assuming it's part of your LAN).

You access the cameras from a menu found in the NVR's embedded webGUI.
Then I still could access the cameras and get alerts through the DSS app? Also, I will just follow the setup guide video that Andy sent with his products. I’m new to all of this and before I started hooking things up, I wanted to makes sure all of my ducks are in a row on how to set things up.
 
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+1 above.

Big key is do not plug in all the cameras at the same time and do not start swapping cameras on POE ports (like testing them and then installing them and just randomly plugging them in).

While it shouldn't matter, we have seen instances where the NVR assigns a POE port to a camera, and then all is whacked out.

Best practice is to plug one camera in and wait for it to show up on the NVR, then plug in the next camera.
 
+1 above.

Big key is do not plug in all the cameras at the same time and do not start swapping cameras on POE ports (like testing them and then installing them and just randomly plugging them in).

While it shouldn't matter, we have seen instances where the NVR assigns a POE port to a camera, and then all is whacked out.

Best practice is to plug one camera in and wait for it to show up on the NVR, then plug in the next camera.
Awesome! I just installed my hard drive in the NVR and hopefully this weekend I will be able to start the installation process of 1 camera at the time and setting up the NVR.
 
It is a little dated and some of the screens have changed, but many find this thread a great resource in setting up the NVR.

 
It is a little dated and some of the screens have changed, but many find this thread a great resource in setting up the NVR.

Thanks for the information! This should help a lot for us not so smart folks!
 
It is a little dated and some of the screens have changed, but many find this thread a great resource in setting up the NVR.

Thanks for the information! This should help a lot for us not so smart folks!
@wittaj when setting up the NVR once we get to the point of adding cameras do we just close out of the NVR? Does it save everything that you have done?
 
Depending on what you are doing, there will be a save button at the bottom of some screens.

Like adding the cameras will be automatic, but changing settings in the camera, setting up the record schedule, alerts, etc. will require a save.
 
Depending on what you are doing, there will be a save button at the bottom of some screens.

Like adding the cameras will be automatic, but changing settings in the camera, setting up the record schedule, alerts, etc. will require a save.
I was just setting up the NVR initially offline and then I was going to start setting up the cameras. Do I need to put the NVR to the LAN before I start trying to plug up cameras? Here’s a picture of where I’m at.
 

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You should be able to set it up not connected to LAN. It obviously won't allow you to put in a recovery email or set up P2P, but it doesn't need internet to be setup.
 
Something to add for new people that are using Dahua with maybe older FW or even Amcrest NVRs with POE ports, For me and I have more then my share of NVRs, I like to add in all the cameras plug and go let the camera come online and after all my cameras are connected I will then go into the NVRs user area and change the password even if it is to the same password I am already using for the NVR.. If the cameras you are using are Dahua or Amcrest once you change the password it will ask if you want to do the same for your cameras and you pick yes. This will make it so your cameras are all on the same password as your NVR and if someone happens to access your out door ports they can't hijack your cameras unless they know your password.. For me different DVR/NVRs have different passwords so I like to keep my cameras setup to the NVRs passwords to keep accessing them easy if I need to access them over the Vitrual Network.. Some NVRs will auto setup new cameras with the NVRs password others don't.. So thought I would put that in there to help others keep the cameras as secure as the NVR..
 
Something to add for new people that are using Dahua with maybe older FW or even Amcrest NVRs with POE ports, For me and I have more then my share of NVRs, I like to add in all the cameras plug and go let the camera come online and after all my cameras are connected I will then go into the NVRs user area and change the password even if it is to the same password I am already using for the NVR.. If the cameras you are using are Dahua or Amcrest once you change the password it will ask if you want to do the same for your cameras and you pick yes. This will make it so your cameras are all on the same password as your NVR and if someone happens to access your out door ports they can't hijack your cameras unless they know your password.. For me different DVR/NVRs have different passwords so I like to keep my cameras setup to the NVRs passwords to keep accessing them easy if I need to access them over the Vitrual Network.. Some NVRs will auto setup new cameras with the NVRs password others don't.. So thought I would put that in there to help others keep the cameras as secure as the NVR..
Thanks for the info!
 
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Something to add for new people that are using Dahua with maybe older FW or even Amcrest NVRs with POE ports, For me and I have more then my share of NVRs, I like to add in all the cameras plug and go let the camera come online and after all my cameras are connected I will then go into the NVRs user area and change the password even if it is to the same password I am already using for the NVR.. If the cameras you are using are Dahua or Amcrest once you change the password it will ask if you want to do the same for your cameras and you pick yes. This will make it so your cameras are all on the same password as your NVR and if someone happens to access your out door ports they can't hijack your cameras unless they know your password.. For me different DVR/NVRs have different passwords so I like to keep my cameras setup to the NVRs passwords to keep accessing them easy if I need to access them over the Vitrual Network.. Some NVRs will auto setup new cameras with the NVRs password others don't.. So thought I would put that in there to help others keep the cameras as secure as the NVR..

How old of NVRs are you using LOL.

For at least the last 5 years, if not longer, a Dahua OEM NVR will initialize the cameras and set the username and password to that of the NVR. Nothing more to do and you have now added a step that could cause someone to accidently put a wrong password on the camera.
 
As I said Amcrest and older FW Dahua, I don't know what NVR they are using I am offering a TIP that will insure that someone setting up a NVR will keep the cameras from using admin or 123456 or what ever the NVR and camera are setup to use out of the box.. Most times at least for my Amcrest NVRs and yeah might have older Dahua FW NVRs. Also a TIP that changes the password of the NVR and also changes the password of the Camera to same password how will it add in a step that they don't know the password of the camera when it is as I said the same as the NVR.. When you change the password of the NVR it offers to change password for the cameras same to be said for the email setup for the NVR if it is changed it will or should/could offer to do the same for the cameras. Better be safe then sorry for keeping a camera setup with admin admin as user and pass.. The step is to setup password as the one you already use for the NVR to keep all connected cameras on the same password path..
 
As I said Amcrest and older FW Dahua, I don't know what NVR they are using I am offering a TIP that will insure that someone setting up a NVR will keep the cameras from using admin or 123456 or what ever the NVR and camera are setup to use out of the box.. Most times at least for my Amcrest NVRs and yeah might have older Dahua FW NVRs. Also a TIP that changes the password of the NVR and also changes the password of the Camera to same password how will it add in a step that they don't know the password of the camera when it is as I said the same as the NVR.. When you change the password of the NVR it offers to change password for the cameras same to be said for the email setup for the NVR if it is changed it will or should/could offer to do the same for the cameras. Better be safe then sorry for keeping a camera setup with admin admin as user and pass.. The step is to setup password as the one you already use for the NVR to keep all connected cameras on the same password path..

He said just purchased, so I would assume it was in the recent sale.

When was the last time you set one up LOL.

It has been at least 5 years since Dahua NVRs and cameras have had default passwords out of the box.

Thus you will not have an admin admin as user and pass....

You have to initialize them and create your own admin password....

They do not start up out of the box with a login screen. You have to initialize them first and add a password.

And the NVR will automatically assign the camera the same username and password with no questions asked.
 
Thanks for the information! This should help a lot for us not so smart folks!
It's not very much about being smart, but either learning the hard way or getting the info from others who already learned the hard way. The documentation generally isn't complete and/or understandable, and a lot of the steps are not intuitive.
 
First I don't have any Empiretech NVRs so I will get that out,, Second they were asking about setting up IP cameras and again I have no clue to what IP cameras they were using and then for me I was offering some info that covers more then just all being new hardware.. Adding in a Camera that you have already setup maybe using it stand alone, maybe having it on an older NVR.. Adding in a camera no matter what the password or having to Initialize the camera from the upper part of the NVRs menu.. Only have 1 camera that I have done that with that was my Amcrest IP8M-MD180E-AI 180degree camera.. Either way I was just offering some info about 1 how to change the passwords on all devices from 1 place rather then having to do it one at a time and or keep the password to something it came stock out of the box.. Infact another post on here last night found out the user didn't know the default password was older password or different default then the admin admin they were trying to use and was after asking if they had infact tried the default password for the camera that they realized that it was default password just not the one they thought it was.. So taking that info thought I would offer something that again Could help be able to change all passwords into 1 collective to try and 1 help people keep their systems secure and 2 so they don't feel that they would have had to do that 1 time there was a way to let the system do it for them seeing many people with POE NVR and POE connected cameras don't even know how to access the cameras WebUI anyway.. But yeah my last NVR is a year old maybe less, It isn't POE so different story but I can say this taking cameras from 4 different NVRs with 4 different passwords and adding them to a Vlan on my switch and then adding them to my NVR with yet a different password all the cameras connected each having different passwords now share the same password even though I am able to connect to them 1 at a time Done just by using the User modify admin password on my NVR now all the passwords on my Amcrest 4216-E1 are all on the same password.. Just trying to be helpful when some one was asking for some insight into what some might have picked up along the way that might be helpful.. Again different NVR different password and different email but now all the cameras connected share them without having to connect to 12 different cameras and making the change 1 at a time..