That really proves nothing.
What is the vaccination rate of that overall population and how many people died from COVID altogether? Only then can you begin to make statistical inferences about the efficacy of the vaccine there.
Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?
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That really proves nothing.
What is the vaccination rate of that overall population and how many people died from COVID altogether? Only then can you begin to make statistical inferences about the efficacy of the vaccine there.
Those are not my numbers, maybe you should contact St. Paul Minnesota. Efficacy? The fact that 57 Vaxxed people died of Covid answers that question.
iwanttosee
Pulling my weight
Because vaccine helps prevent the person from being so sick that they need to go to hospital. It is 100% effective? No. It is better than no vaccine? Yes.
Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine just 42% effective against infection amid delta spread, preprint suggests
While COVID-19 vaccines might protect against infection and severe disease, there are differences in their effectiveness relative to each other.
www.foxnews.com
What qualify as success in Sweden?
With population of 10.18 million in Sweden, that's 10.9% infection rate, with 1.3% death rate among the infected.
#1 US is at 11% infection rate with 1.7% death rate among the infected.
So judging by the % number, US isn't that far behind Sweden, wouldn't you agree?
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India logs 40,120 fresh coronavirus infections, 585 deaths in last 24 hours
The overall recovery rate has climbed up to 97.46 per cent as of Friday, while a decrement of 2,760 cases has been seen in the active Covid-19 cases in the last 24 hours, the data showed.
Where are you getting your source that Indian pushed vaccine aside? My source says 529,500,000 Indian took the vaccine.
"Lock down" is the Australian method of dealing with Covid 19. Here is just another lock down from yesterday. Australian capital Canberra goes into snap lockdown
Globally, it's 2.1% death rate. When there are 205,414,138 infected and counting, even a small percentage turns into big death number. Delta variant is 40%-60% more transmissible and that's one of the reason Delta is more dangerous than the original.
How Dangerous Is the Delta Variant (B.1.617.2)? | ASM.org
Delta has quickly become the dominant SARS-CoV-2 variant in over a dozen countries around the world. How contagious and deadly is this variant? Will vaccines remain protective against Delta?
I don't understand the obsession to qualify Sweden as a success. Is it because Sweden didn't have a lockdown or mandate masks?
Taiwan has over twice the population of Sweden at 23.57 million. 15,386 confirmed infection, that's 1.3% of Sweden infection number!!!
- Taiwan Centers for Disease Control
How Taiwan beat Covid-19
The high-tech island nation has had a good pandemic, quickly squashing the virus without a national lockdown. What did Taiwan get right?
Sorry for your losses too.
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Bwahaha! Remember those satirical memes with people wearing multiple masks because...
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Tyrannical Philly Mayor Orders All Unvaccinated City Employees to Wear Two Masks Starting on Sept. 1 | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
Science.
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Parley
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Finally a chart that shows it all. Not to be seen on CNN, MSNBC, NBC or the rest of the media. Thank you for posting it.
Edit: Basically what his chart shows that there is even odds of getting Covid where or not that you have had the shot.
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Israel's COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Cases Exceed 50%
According to the Israeli Health Ministry COVID-19 data dashboard on August 11, 2021, the number of serious COVID-19 cases reached 405 yesterday, the highest one-day total since March 2021. Furthermore, about 250 of these patients were fully vaccinated, known as a 'breakthrough case,' reported...
They'll come up with any reason 
iwanttosee
Pulling my weight
Severely Ill table is what you should be looking at. Vaccination prevent most people from being severely ill. It's not that hard of a concept.
Chrome can translate Hebrew into English.
עולם הדאטה - משרד הבריאות
דשבורד הבריאות של משרד הבריאות הינו פורטל חדשני במגזר הציבורי ובכלל, להחצנה והנגשת נתונים לציבור הרחב. מטרת הדשבורד להעמיק את הידע על תחומי האחריות של משרד הבריאות, לעודד מחקר, דיון, גיבוש תובנות ופעולות מבוססות נתונים. משרד הבריאות רואה חשיבות רבה בהשבחת נכסי המידע והצגתם לציבור בצורה פשוטה...
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iwanttosee
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What you missed by not going to the source is that one chart also shows both vaccinated and non vaccinated people being severely ill.
Vaccination prevent most people from being severely ill. It's not that hard of a concept.
Interesting read from the Journal of Infection;
Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination ?
Excerpt; Current Covid-19 vaccines (either mRNA or viral vectors) are based on the original Wuhan spike sequence. Inasmuch as neutralizing antibodies overwhelm facilitating antibodies, ADE is not a concern. However, the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 variants may tip the scales in favor of infection enhancement. Our structural and modelling data suggest that it might be indeed the case for Delta variants.
Link to full text
Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination ?
Excerpt; Current Covid-19 vaccines (either mRNA or viral vectors) are based on the original Wuhan spike sequence. Inasmuch as neutralizing antibodies overwhelm facilitating antibodies, ADE is not a concern. However, the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 variants may tip the scales in favor of infection enhancement. Our structural and modelling data suggest that it might be indeed the case for Delta variants.
Link to full text
Parley
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So what you are saying is the both vaccinated and non-vaccinated people are equally getting Covid. Also you say the vaccine the Covid will not be as severe if you are vaccinated. IMHO we need more data to see if that is true.
Australia:
They Are Covering Up Covid Vax Deaths and Injuries Says Ambulance Workers and Nurses
“…For those who don’t know I work in NSW Ambulance control and have done for the last 18 years . I personally take up to 120 calls per shift for ambulance assistance and I am flabbergasted that it appears no hospital staff in NSW ie doctors or nurses in emergency rooms have come out with the information….
I am hearing call after call of people having adverse and serious reactions to these vaccines so much so that I have flagged this with other staff and managers who agree, one who stated it is absolutely no coincidence that many cardiac events whether they be cardiac arrest or heart palpitations etc directly follow these vaccines and callers are stating that they have never had events like this before and directly connect it with the vaccines.
There are exponentially more people being hospitalised in NSW due to these adverse reactions than to Covid itself "
https:/www.australiannationalreview.com/health/they-are-covering-up-cov-vax-deaths-and-injuries-says-ambulance-workers-and-nurses/
They Are Covering Up Covid Vax Deaths and Injuries Says Ambulance Workers and Nurses
“…For those who don’t know I work in NSW Ambulance control and have done for the last 18 years . I personally take up to 120 calls per shift for ambulance assistance and I am flabbergasted that it appears no hospital staff in NSW ie doctors or nurses in emergency rooms have come out with the information….
I am hearing call after call of people having adverse and serious reactions to these vaccines so much so that I have flagged this with other staff and managers who agree, one who stated it is absolutely no coincidence that many cardiac events whether they be cardiac arrest or heart palpitations etc directly follow these vaccines and callers are stating that they have never had events like this before and directly connect it with the vaccines.
There are exponentially more people being hospitalised in NSW due to these adverse reactions than to Covid itself "
https:/www.australiannationalreview.com/health/they-are-covering-up-cov-vax-deaths-and-injuries-says-ambulance-workers-and-nurses/
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bigredfish
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Not in the medical field, that being said;
Abnormal & Clinical Lab Findings Deaths continue to rise as of MMWR Week 30. This is a rate of about 1400 deaths per week higher (~60% higher) than historical in this special category.
Chart at Twitter link embedded here
Parley
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That is another thing that is not being covered. That being the side effects from the shot. They range from none, mild and up to death.
It's going to be pretty difficult to get good data with the drug companies having destroyed the control groups. Without them there are observations, conclusions, and hypothesis that don't meet scientific standards. The exact same argument that has been used to attack the results of oxyhydrochloroquine and ivermectin studies. To go along with all of the highly confident precise conclusions about the shots and results, I have my own to offer. I had the occasion to talk with front line caregivers from two different hospitals this last week. They both told me that the information being given to the public about the covid patient load and severity is not even close to the reality at their respective hospitals. To quote one of them "It's all a lie". Nothing scientific here, just passing along second-hand information that I personally believe to be accurate.
bigredfish
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ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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“Mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic is prone to promoting selection and adaptation of immune escape variants that are featured by increasing infectiousness and resistance to spike protein (S)-directed antibodies (Abs), thereby diminishing protection in vaccinees and threatening the unvaccinated.”