Obviously, there's the zoom factor and the sensor size difference, but why would you choose one over the other? How do they compare performance wise?
PTZ6C2M-45X vs PTZ5A4M-25X
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I have the 5A4M. I want a larger sensor size for nighttime since I run it in color 24/7. Excellent camera.
What if you don't have a lot of ambient light at night? Color needs light, even with great sensor, otherwise it performs poorly to identify people, vehicles, objects. I presume your location has ample ambient light?
Would love to see a sample from your cam.
I chose the 6c for the 45x zoom. Run it IR at night and works for my purpose.
If I wanted color, yeah, the 5a or similar.
If I wanted color, yeah, the 5a or similar.
I think in my situation I would have to run IR at night regardless of camera choice since there are no streetlights on this road and very little ambient light from the neighbors. See below image.
I really don't need 45X zoom as the furthest distance I would be viewing is right around 250 feet. I'm looking for best performance of the 2 running at night with IR and low-light conditions. In my case, which in your opinion would do better?
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I agree with the others above. If you don't have much light, the PTZ5AM-25X will work well. Here is an example with no added lights on my driveway--just the PTZ5AM's built-in IR. Also, the beta software of the animal firmware is working very well with this camera.
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Yes, you do need lots of light to run pretty much any camera in color at night. Here is what auto tracking looked like last night on the 5A4M:
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I don't need 45X of zoom that the 6C2M provides and I'd choose a larger sensor size over a smaller one pretty much any day of the week unless there were specific features I was missing from the larger sensor size cam.
Yes, you do need lots of light to run pretty much any camera in color at night. Here is what auto tracking looked like last night on the 5A4M:
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I don't need 45X of zoom that the 6C2M provides and I'd choose a larger sensor size over a smaller one pretty much any day of the week unless there were specific features I was missing from the larger sensor size cam.
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If only I could have stadium light like that around my house....
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You have oodles of light. A ring camera could see in that light@JPmedia
Yes, you do need lots of light to run pretty much any camera in color at night. Here is what auto tracking looked like last night on the 5A4M:
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I don't need 45X of zoom that the 6C2M provides and I'd choose a larger sensor size over a smaller one pretty much any day of the week unless there were specific features I was missing from the larger sensor size cam.
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Doubt it.
But, yes, you need lots of light to run color at night. That is why I chose that camera. I have lots of light AND the 5A4M has a large sensor size. It's a win-win.
Ok, maybe a Reolink?
I can only dream of having that much light. B&W and IR for me I see
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Haha. Yeah.Ok, maybe a Reolink?
I can only dream of having that much light. B&W and IR for me I see
If don’t need the 45x zoom, then I still think 5A4M is the better camera. Might as well take advantage of the larger sensor size.
Well, I pulled the trigger and purchased the PTZ5AM-25X from Andy. I'll let you know when it arrives.
I saw one on the auction site NIB, but they wanted damn near new price for it. No warranty and by the time you paid the shipping fee and taxes, you'd be $50 over what one would cost new with free shipping. Sellers should do some research before setting an asking price. But then again, the auction site has gotten too expensive anymore. Seller's fees on the entire cost, including shipping (even though I use my own shipper), taxes, and the cost of shipping itself. It's a lot different than 5 - 10 years ago. Seller gets screwed every which way
I saw one on the auction site NIB, but they wanted damn near new price for it. No warranty and by the time you paid the shipping fee and taxes, you'd be $50 over what one would cost new with free shipping. Sellers should do some research before setting an asking price. But then again, the auction site has gotten too expensive anymore. Seller's fees on the entire cost, including shipping (even though I use my own shipper), taxes, and the cost of shipping itself. It's a lot different than 5 - 10 years ago. Seller gets screwed every which way
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Just comparing specs on the current Lorex PTZ vs the new PTZ5AM-25X. Should be a noticeable difference in image:
Lorex LNZ44P12B (current PTZ)
Sensor 1/3 inch
Minimum Illumination
0.1 Lux (Color)
0.01 Lux (Black and White)
Focal Length 5 mm–64 mm
12X zoom
Auto-tracking - no
Empiretech PTZ5A4M-25X (New PTZ)
Sensor 1/1.8 inch
Min Illumination
0.001 Lux color
0.0001 Lux B&W
Focal Length 5.4 mm–135 mm
25X zoom
Auto-tracking - yes
Lorex LNZ44P12B (current PTZ)
Sensor 1/3 inch
Minimum Illumination
0.1 Lux (Color)
0.01 Lux (Black and White)
Focal Length 5 mm–64 mm
12X zoom
Auto-tracking - no
Empiretech PTZ5A4M-25X (New PTZ)
Sensor 1/1.8 inch
Min Illumination
0.001 Lux color
0.0001 Lux B&W
Focal Length 5.4 mm–135 mm
25X zoom
Auto-tracking - yes
