Review - IP Cam Talk 4 MP IR Fixed Turret Network Camera

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Courtesy of @Mike here at


We have the ipcamtalk branded 4 MP IR Fixed Turret Network Camera to check out.
I have received this camera in exchange for a fair and honest review.

Available here for approx $147.00 https://store.ipcamtalk.com/shop/ipct-hdw5431re-i/

Edit: Note that **This cam does NOT require plugins in Chrome. Not tested any other browser.**

IPCT-HDW5431RE-I
4 MP IR Fixed Turret Network Camera
  • Max. 2688× 1520 @ 30fps
  • H.265, H.264
  • 120dB WDR
  • Powered by Night Eye, enhanced night vision
  • Color: 0.007 Lux @ (F1.2, AGC ON),0.001Lux @ (F1.4, AGC ON), 0 Lux with IR
  • False alarm filter by target classification
  • 12 VDC & PoE (802.3at, class 4)
  • IR range: Up to 50 m
  • Support on-board storage, up to 128 GB
  • IP67, IK10
Camera
Image Sensor: 1/2.7” Progressive Scan CMOS
Signal System: PAL/NTSC
Min. Illumination: Color: 0.007 Lux @ (F1.2, AGC ON), 0.012 Lux @ (F1.6, AGC ON)
Shutter time: 1/3 s to 1/100,000 s
Slow shutter: Support
Lens: 2.8 mm, horizontal FOV: 104°, vertical FOV: 58°, diagonal FOV: 124°
4 mm, horizontal FOV: 83°, vertical FOV: 44°, diagonal FOV: 99°
6 mm, horizontal FOV: 51°, vertical FOV: 28°, diagonal FOV: 58°
Lens Mount: M12
Adjustment Range: Pan: 0° to 360°, tilt: 0° to 70°, rotate: 0° to 360°
Day& Night: IR cut filter with auto switch
Wide Dynamic Range: 120 dB
Digital noise reduction: 3D DNR
Focus: Fixed
Compression Standard
Video Compression: H.265/H.264/MJPEG
Video bit rate: 32Kbps~16Mbps

I have the 2.8mm version.

Complete specs here: 4 MP IR Fixed Turret Network Camera, Powered by Night Eye | IP Cam Talk

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The Dahua 5231 Starlight on the left.
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Twist off trim ring to expose the set screw.
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Loosen set screw, pull back tab, and remove or rotate cam in it's base.
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Door to access reset button, Sd card slot and serial port.
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Some notes:
  • Manual says holding the reset button for 10 seconds will default the cam.
  • Nope, you have to remove power, hold down the reset button, then apply power while continuing to hold down the reset button for 30 seconds after applying power.
  • In the video below, you will see the night version of me walking up to the camera washing out my face. I will repeat that test, because I failed to realize factory default does not turn on the auto adjust for the IR illumination. Default is on manual at full power. Partly due to a learning curve for this firmware on my part.
  • After dark, the scene is illuminated by the IPCT cam's IR, 7.5watts of LED light from the lamp post on the left, and an 8 watt auxiliary IR illumination.
  • There is no "auto setting" for exposure and such, you have to set the shutter speed where you want it for day and night. Default is 1/30 at night, and 1/60 in daytime.
  • It does change the day and night profiles when it switches from night to day. As long as you have it set to auto-change.
  • At one point during the night test, I turn off both the 8 watt Ir illuminator, and the post lamp for comparison.
  • In this first video, all camera settings are at factory default. Recorded and exported from Blue Iris.
  • Be sure to choose 1080p or higher in YT player.
  • Again, I will repeat the nighttime walk test after I adjust the camera appropriately away from defaults.
 
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2.8 mm with 1/2" sensor is about 98 degrees horizontal FoV per IPVM calculator. very wide...
If using these to replace existing 1/3" sensors, gotta factor that in...

edit: f'man corrected me below. doesn't apply to this cam (but to the 8MP 5831, yes)
 
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2.8 mm with 1/2" sensor is about 98 degrees horizontal FoV per IPVM calculator. very wide...
If using these to replace existing 1/3" sensors, gotta factor that in...
Incorrect. These 2mp and 4mp accusense cameras are not 1/2" they are 1/2.7 and 1/2.8, the fov will be similar to a 1/3 sensor with the same focal length.
 

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Incorrect. These 2mp and 4mp accusense cameras are not 1/2" they are 1/2.7 and 1/2.8, the fov will be similar to a 1/3 sensor with the same focal length.
d'oh. thanx for clarifying that. Thought i could chip in in some info as I had one (8mp 5831) around. nm...
 

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To me, Dahua looks way better (better image detail while having less pixels). Also, the colors are way oversaturated.

Would love to see comparison at night.
 
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The IPCT cam is still running factory defaults, and the Dahua is not. Saturation is tuned down in the Dahua. Just an on the fly capture.
Why did you turn the saturation down ..jw
 

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I know why I often turn the saturation down in photo cameras. When converting from the RAW image sensor data to a color bitmap, having the saturation set too high can easily lead to clipping of individual color channels (Red, Green, or Blue) even when the RAW data is still well below clipping.

The image from the adjusted camera looks more natural to me. Companies often set default saturation very high because it sells cameras, TVs, Monitors, etc. People tend to prefer oversaturated images upon brief inspection and comparison. Once you get to view them for a while, you realize that it needs to be turned down because the images are unrealistic and cartoonish.

Check out how the demo TVs are adjusted, or the demo video is adjusted for display TVs at most stores. They crank up the saturation for the high profit models and not so much for the lower margin units. Sneaky!
 

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I know why I often turn the saturation down in photo cameras. When converting from the RAW image sensor data to a color bitmap, having the saturation set too high can easily lead to clipping of individual color channels (Red, Green, or Blue) even when the RAW data is still well below clipping.

The image from the adjusted camera looks more natural to me. Companies often set default saturation very high because it sells cameras, TVs, Monitors, etc. People tend to prefer oversaturated images upon brief inspection and comparison. Once you get to view them for a while, you realize that it needs to be turned down because the images are unrealistic and cartoonish.

Check out how the demo TVs are adjusted, or the demo video is adjusted for display TVs at most stores. They crank up the saturation for the high profit models and not so much for the lower margin units. Sneaky!
Exactly! :goodpost:
Default is at 50, I run all mine at 40.

It will depend on how your monitor is adjusted that you are using to view those comparison photos too.
 
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