I never had any problems like this with any other model. So far the only solutions I have is to replace set screw and add Velcro as a filler.
And this is why I've said time and time again Andy is the best. Gives me the piece of mind I need...but first time I notice a droop, these cams will be shipped back to Andy...quick...fast...and in a hurry. Good thing is I can trust him to do the same on the return.Ha, now that’s good customer service. Thank you Andy
Anyone who has a bad camera, let's keep track of the manufacture date...maybe the issue has been addressed in later builds?
Just as a data point for anyone that was keeping track: Earlier T5442 cameras I received from Andy were dated 2019-07, while the most recent ones I received today are dated 2019-10. There's no discernible difference between any of them. As Andy states, it's likely the same across all of them if the changes are considered a feature to make installation easier for some people.The ball part for this model is not totally locked,because this camera is much lighter than the HDW5231R-ZE, easy to adjust the ball part is an update compare to the HDW5231R-ZE, the installers have difficulties to adjust the camera when hang the camera on, so they made some improvement. The loosen still need some strength to move it after I checked Ajrun's pics and video, i thought the ball part totally loosen and can’t hold on the position that set . I tested 10 cams right now for this series of cams, All ok. I think can be easier for installation or maintenance.
Or, as I encountered recently, a ball. A soccer ball to be precise or so I'm told.The 4433 and new 2431T-AS I recently tested and reviewed also have this new adjustment ball. It was wayyyyyyyyyy easier to adjust than the older models with the set screws.
And while relatively easy to move, I didn’t feel like it would do so on its own. Something would still need to physically move it. Cat or possum might.
I get what you're saying Andy, but it seems clear that "Can be adjusted" =/= "Locked". They're mutually exclusive.From my experience, That is not be a problem at all, the ball part i tested can be adjusted when it's locked on all new cams, the camera is installed on the vertical wall or celing, not sit on the desk! Any wind even hurricane will not blown it, so if you afraid some guys climb to your wall to adjust it, I think No thief will be such stupid.
Losing the screw is clearly just user error; You can back the screw out very far without it actually coming out. There's never a need to loosen it anywhere close to that much - It takes at least three full turns too many before loss can possibly become an issue.For the IPC-HDW5231R-ZE, many guys told me they lost the lock screws, why? Because they climb to loosen the screws to adjust the direction, and lost the lock screw, because it's too tight. So that is why newer turret cams are smaller than before.
I thought friends weren't supposed to let friends install domes outdoors?But if you install very low places, the turret not suit, better use dome ones with IK10, even use a hammer will not destory it.
No matter, if you have installed and correctly positioned/overlapped your cams, by the time a bad guy does anything to defeat a cam, you should already have a captured a good id shot.
For the most part, I agree but again...something as simple as a kid playing has already demonstrated to me beyond the hypothetical that "stuff happens". Nothing nefarious going on - no bad guys with tape or spray or broomsticks. I imagine there are many other innocent causes for cameras getting bumped like the teenager tasked with cleaning leaves out of the gutter or the guy paid to clean the siding, etc.I just think its too early to tell if the ease of movement is a real problem or not.
I have a 6mm focal length coming in soon for a client, I'll post feedback as wellSo mine came today, manufacture date 10-2019. At first I was really disappointed with how sloppy it was, but I noticed if you play around with how it's oriented and if you can get 3 of the rubber feet to make contact with the "eyeball" portion of the camera it stays pretty secure. In the picture attached only 1 of the feet is not making contact with the "eyeball" and it's pretty secure. It's not locked into place completely, but it'd be difficult enough to move. Out of the box it was only making contact with 2 feet in most positions, so with a little trial and error I think it can be acceptable.
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I am building a time machine. My future self will be bringing us someOh - and we want our varifocal turret.
Not watched all the vids but it’s quite clear that the issue is with the thickness of the pads. Can’t quite remember what the pads were like on the 5231 cams I had but simply adding another layer on top of the existing pads would probably resolve the issue.
In terms of ease of install, I never had any issues when installing and adjusting my 5231s even when perched on the top of a ladder so I’ve don’t think I understand the notion that this change was made to make it easier to install.
From Andy and Duhuas point, looking at and changing the thickness of the pads should resolve the issue so a simple fix maybe? Maybe should pack an extra set which can be stuck on for people who prefer a tighter ball
I have a 6mm focal length coming in soon for a client, I'll post feedback as well
I will invite more guys to talk about this here to share their experience. By the way, I don't pay any guy money for fake review or tring to hide something here, always try to offer the best product.@DavidR1, the irony is that the turrets sold in the states (Dahua and Dahua-rebranded), I've come across have no cosmetic / build-quality issues whatsoever; but this may be a subjective comment because I haven't come across a Dahua turret camera (sold in the US market) that has had some defect or design issue yet. its possible that resellers (selling Dahua-rebranded equipment) pay a little more in terms of quality control which is why the cost is a bit more (sometimes twice or even thrice). If you buy the Dahua cameras that are sold by Dahua via their authorized sellers in the states (with 5-year warranty), you'll likely not come across an outstanding defect. Even the cheapest dome camera I picked from B&H the other day does not have even the slightest paint quality / machining & casting issue. Cameras coming from this IPCT Vendor is technically a rebrand as well, but just without any associated logo. There are certain parameters that sellers get to select prior (which include cost-savings); quality control is key to longevity in a business's survival and success. This forum has fueled sales of popular Dahua models to skyrocket. As in any retail store, a popular item may sell out fast, and to meet demand, there might be certain sacrifices that companies are willing to take. If you want your voices to be heard, feedback should be sent directly to Dahua Its good that Andy sells Hikvision too now, haha
A varifocal turret will come out for the 4mp Starlight; there's always a way, and eventually it will be released. The effect is purely psychological from a consumer-standpoint. Companies these days study consumer buying behavior and go from there. Its purely economics. We've at 10nm processors now; the advances in optics (mirrorless cameras) have come to fruition. I know this all sounds very broad; like everyone else, a beefier and larger shell to enclose a varifocal model for the 4mp Starlight series wouldn't be a problem.