Review-OEM 4mp AI Cam IPC-T5442TM-AS Starlight+

[samplenhold]

also thinking the CAMs would come with the P/S

Why would you think that POE IP cams would come with a power supply? Especially if it is not listed in the data sheets? If you have a POE injector, it has it's own power supply. You do not need a second one.

The one below supplies 30W, which is more than enough for this cam.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4H00EO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[David L]

Why would you think that POE IP cams would come with a power supply? Especially if it is not listed in the data sheets? If you have a POE injector, it has it's own power supply. You do not need a second one.

The one below supplies 30W, which is more than enough for this cam.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4H00EO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I guess because some of my other POE capable devices did, most recent my POE APs did. Guess I just assumed. No Big Deal. So this is why I bought the cables only...Thank you for the Injector with P/S, might just go that route.

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[samplenhold]

Thank you for the Injector with P/S, might just go that route.

I bought two of those. One I use every time I get a new camera to run through the initialization, set all of the parameters up in the web GUI, and add it to BI. I had thought I would use them for a couple of cams that were going to be fed to a non-POE switch, but as that switch ended up being too small over time, I bought a POE switch to replace it.

 

[David L]

I bought two of those. One I use every time I get a new camera to run through the initialization, set all of the parameters up in the web GUI, and add it to BI. I had thought I would use them for a couple of cams that were going to be fed to a non-POE switch, but as that switch ended up being too small over time, I bought a POE switch to replace it.

Thank you, I just ordered one...I like how the power cord is not a transformer (brick), easier to plug into my UPS...

Our Rack...


It's a mess right now, will be cable dressing once I am done testing.

 

[looney2ns]

In short order, you will have as much $$ in injectors than a small poe switch would cost. And have a much more tangled mess to manage.
Most cameras do not come with PS. Only some of the larger PTZ's cams do.

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged-Desktop/dp/B01MRO4M73/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2P07FZW3OUP92&dchild=1&keywords=poe%2Bswitch&qid=1591904256&s=electronics&sprefix=poe%2Caps%2C177&sr=1-4&th=1

 

[David L]

In short order, you will have as more $$ in injectors than a small poe switch would cost. And have a much more tangled mess to manage.
Most cameras do not come with PS. Only some of the larger PTZ's cams do.

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged-Desktop/dp/B01MRO4M73/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2P07FZW3OUP92&dchild=1&keywords=poe%2Bswitch&qid=1591904256&s=electronics&sprefix=poe%2Caps%2C177&sr=1-4&th=1

So in order to keep my traffic separate the switch needs to be able to handle Level 2 VLAN Tagging...

 

[biggen]

Head to ebay. There are plenty of second hand PoE managed Cisco, Dell, and HPe switches.

 

[David L]

Got my eye on this switch, when it becomes available and if I exceed more than 2 cameras, which according to just about everyone here , I will. I am only cabled right now for front and back CAMs...

Level 2 Switch

 

[David L]

Head to ebay. There are plenty of second hand PoE managed Cisco, Dell, and HPe switches.

Thank You, second hand will do...Appreciate it.

 

[reflection]

So in order to keep my traffic separate the switch needs to be able to handle Level 2 VLAN Tagging...

A basic Ethernet switch will have all the ports in one layer 2 domain. That means all ports will talk to each other. A basic switch does not do VLAN tagging. If you are talking about separating traffic into multiple VLANs (layer 2 domains), then yes, it would have to support VLAN tagging.

 

[biggen]

I think that is what he has and wants to maintain. Separate broadcast domains in the form of Vlans.

 

[David L]

A basic Ethernet switch will have all the ports in one layer 2 domain. That means all ports will talk to each other. A basic switch does not do VLAN tagging. If you are talking about separating traffic into multiple VLANs (layer 2 domains), then yes, it would have to support VLAN tagging.

Thanks, yeah I have managed switches with 4 VLANs right now. I have tried unmanaged switches but they only worked with untagged traffic.

 

[David L]

So I spoke too soon, as always, this is the switch I will get if needed:

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JetStream 8-Port Gigabit Smart PoE+ Switch with 2 SFP Slots

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What would be kewl is being able to connect the two via fiber, I should of ran fiber to my other switches I know it is a bit of overkill for a home network, but since prices for managed switches dropped 500-1000% from a few decades ago, for an Enterprise network, I could not resist...

 

[pbc]

Anyone directly compare this camera's low light ability (no IR) to the Hikvision Colorvu's yet?

 

[David L]

Anyone directly compare this camera's low light ability (no IR) to the Hikvision Colorvu's yet?

Thought I saw a YouTube video doing so. May try there...

 

[David L]

Also, try setting the Iframe to the same rate as the FPS in the camera.
Anything above 15fps isn't needed in security video.
I run some of my cams at 10fps, and once I got used to viewing them, it's fine.

I know this is an old post but going back and reading whole thread. Great info here.

Is the above statement due to bandwidth via recording? Still Valid? Or can you direct me to a link to explain why 15FPS instead of 30FPS? I understand you mentioned Security Video, less frames less space, NVR? Forgive me of my ignorance just trying to put the puzzle together.

Thanks

 

[bigredfish]

Mostly a matter of bandwidth and/or storage. I have plenty of both and prefer to run max FPS

 

[gansle]

Mostly a matter of bandwidth and/or storage. I have plenty of both and prefer to run max FPS

Bigredfish,
Are u still happy with the b5442’s? I am gonna order 1 bullet varifocal from andy.

 

[pbc]

Thought I saw a YouTube video doing so. May try there...

Couldn't find any, so now that I am switching to BI from my Hikvision NVR, I just ordered 1 of each from Andy, mainly because I have areas of my house that get very little to no external light so the Dahua will be better there with it's IR capabilities. But will try and set them both up at the same location to see how the Dahua fares in full color vs the Hik. E.g., in my backyard the Hik at 1/6 or even 1/12 exposure delivers an incredibly well lit picture, but motion is obviously compromised so IR would probably work better there. My front door on the other hand I can run at 1/60 (even at 1/120) in full color and thanks to the street lights across the street I get a great picture so no need for IR there.

 

[aristobrat]

But will try and set them both up at the same location to see how the Dahua fares in full color vs the Hik.

I'm excited for this test! The Hik has a bigger f1.0 aperture (compared the 5442's f1.6), so it looks like the Hik should have an advantage... I'm curious to see how that plays out in a "same location" test.