Tired of doorcams, what normal camera can I use ?

[Chura]

I'm tired of Doorbells, I have AP 3m from it and it still fail.
I'm thinking to install just normal camera with Mic/Speaker. How good does it works as "doorbell" like expirience ?

Also, I'll appreciate recommendation, no need for PTZ

 

[looney2ns]

One of these mounted at 5ft next to the door will work well.
With some additional hardware, you can make it have the ability to speak to the visitor with it by adding a small amp and a speaker.
Review-IPC-E3241F-AS-M Loryta (dahua) 2mp 2.8mm mini dome. | IP Cam Talk

 

[looney2ns]

Your proposed location is way too high.

 

[Chura]

From what perspective?
I don't care people lookinng up

 

[looney2ns]

You won't see faces, all you will get is tops of heads.
Any camera you expect to get a face ID from, needs to not be installed any higher than 8ft, lower is better.
Most people don't look up, they also wear hats, and a lot look down.

 

[Chura]

I see
Doable
Now just find which
Smaller footprint preference

 

[Sybertiger]

I have an Nutone intercom doorbell that is 30 years old. Personally, I think an intercom is overrated. Call me a curmudgeon LOL, but I don't answer the door if I'm not expecting anyone. I've rarely used the intercom in 30 years and when I did it was pretty much to tell people "not interested". Most people I know, when I'm not answering the door, know to call or text me. If I don't know you and I'm not expecting you then I don't want to talk to you at my front door. In fact I have a note covering the doorbell button that says "Please do not ring the doorbell or knock on the door, leave a note instead". I work from home and don't need my crazy loud doorbell to ring in the middle of a conference call.

See links below, I've done this scheme twice now.

Front Door wedge cam install

This is part two of the camera installations at my front door. The first part was an install of a dual cam (Dahua IPC-HDBW4231F-E2-M aka BOOBIE CAM) as posted in THIS THREAD. The dual cam served as a "package cam" to see boxes left on the front porch as well as door hangers, post-it notes...

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Newly installed cams and Blue Iris system

I did a new Blue Iris installation for my parents recently. It's a start and probably needs 3 more cams to provide adequate coverage. BI server is an i5-8500 Dell Optiplex. Currently have Deepstack server installed and have OpenVPN setup so I can tweak it remotely from 500 miles away. Ran 500...

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[looney2ns]

I see
Doable
Now just find which
Smaller footprint preference

The cam I linked above is about as small a footprint as you'll get....that is still a decent camera.

 

[Chura]

The cam I linked above is about as small a footprint as you'll get....that is still a decent camera.

Oops. Missed that comment actually. Just saw your comment in the height.
Thanjst again

 

[Sybertiger]

And this is what you might expect with a ceiling mounted cam. Your ceiling appears to be 9.5 - 10 feet up while mine is 12 feet therefore your view would be even better.

 

[Chura]

And this is what you might expect with a ceiling mounted cam. Your ceiling appears to be 9.5 - 10 feet up while mine is 12 feet therefore your view would be even better.

Not sure if you're in favor or not

 

[wittaj]

And we see what we all talk about - you got a great shot of the top of his head from the camera 12 feet up, but your camera around 5 feet captures the face!

 

[Sybertiger]

Not sure if you're in favor or not

I'm in favor of mounting a E3241F-AS-M at 58" - 60" off the floor in the corner similar to mine. And, installing a small cam on the ceiling if you want to have a "package cam". Part of the problem with your current doorbell cam is that it faces the opposite wall instead of outward. Your entry is similar to mine. BTW, I eventually used corridor mode for the wedge cam just for grins.

 

[Chura]

I'm in favor of mounting a E3241F-AS-M at 58" - 60" off the floor in the corner similar to mine. And, installing a small cam on the ceiling if you want to have a "package cam". Part of the problem with your current doorbell cam is that it faces the opposite wall instead of outward. Your entry is similar to mine. BTW, I eventually used corridor mode for the wedge cam just for grins.

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Thanks for the tip. Not sure my management will allow that camera in there.
The current Doorbell is giving me a great wide view, covering more then I need this way (it has a 10 degree mount)
My biggest issue is that its keep disconnecting from Wifi, and 2way audio works 1% of the times via the Hikvision app

 

[Sybertiger]

Can we see what your doorbell cam's view is?

 

[Chura]

That plant needs water

 

[Chura]

and here we can see how good the wifi is

 

[Sybertiger]

There aren't many on this forum that recommend WiFi for exactly the reason you mention. The problem is a lot more common than the WiFi cam reviewers will admit. It's amusing whenever I see an article for "The best security cameras for 2022" a ton of them are for WiFi cams. They probably have the cam sitting next to the router while they do their analysis.

 

[mat200]

Not sure if you're in favor or not

Note:

Sybertiger has one camera by the door at about facelevel .. and one camera looking down at the package drop location .. personally I like this sort of setup ..

I would also consider a video doorbell / intercom product .. could be a cloud dependent product if you like

 

[Chura]

Note:

Sybertiger has one camera by the door at about facelevel .. and one camera looking down at the package drop location .. personally I like this sort of setup ..

I would also consider a video doorbell / intercom product .. could be a cloud dependent product if you like

Here we don't have packages left near the door, so I don't worry about that.
Facelevel mini camera is where I'm going, just trying to find solution for speaker there