[tool] [tutorial] Free AI Person Detection for Blue Iris

clowg said:
Thanks Village Guy. I wondered if that was going to be the answer. Up to back to that setup then.
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Your welcome, I have been a proponent of Clone mode from the start of this project. It's disappointing that the BI developer will not give an option to only record on external trigger as we would then no longer need a cloned camera.
 
Village Guy said:
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Here are the setup images for one of my system cameras and the last image is simply changed to show continuous recording. I suspect you may need to disable the HD stream if you find the continuous recording is in HD resolution. As configured the camera will monitor in SD (NOT RECORD) and when triggered send an HD snap to aitool for investigation. BI will automatically make the stream switch if you configure the pre trigger buffer for about 2 seconds. On my system aitool will send an external command to the clone which is set to record in HD for 60 seconds and continue to record if retriggered during that 60 second period.
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Hey @Village Guy, finally carved out a sec to look at this, would you mind sharing a screenshot of your trigger tab please?
 
Just from my personal perspective and previous thefts/experiences. continuous recording is your second line of defense.

(everybodys setup and situations vary, so YMMV)
 
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Rolled this out today as a long-time Sentry user. Pretty cool stuff you put together OP. Thank you.

Looking forward to animated gifs in the notifications maybe someday?
 
columbusgeek said:
Just from my personal perspective and previous thefts/experiences. continuous recording is your second line of defense.

(everybodys setup and situations vary, so YMMV)
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Yep so many people are going to be disappointed, recoding only from clones.
That being said, although I do constant recording with AI Tools flagging alerts, I have now setup clones to record a "timelapse" daily video summary of AI validated events in a single video per cam.
Then when I watch the actual footage, AI Tool as great as it is, misses a lot, but was heck more accurate than sentry.
 
columbusgeek said:
Just from my personal perspective and previous thefts/experiences. continuous recording is your second line of defense.

(everybodys setup and situations vary, so YMMV)
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I'm intrigued by your comment. Can you share your reasoning for recording static video. Are you inferring that capturing video 30 seconds before an event along with the WHOLE event being recorded is in some way inferior to recording continously. Is it a legal requirement in your country?
 
Village Guy said:
I'm intrigued by your comment. Can you share your reasoning for recording static video. Are you inferring that capturing video 30 seconds before an event along with the WHOLE event being recorded is in some way inferior to recording continously. Is it a legal requirement in your country?
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I think this has been covered to death before, but you do what's best for you.

Parking legal requirements because they vary by region, it comes down to reliability and introducing more points of failure.
Just search this site for motion events issues. I have had BI set to trigger on the slightest alerts, as well as triggering ONVIF trigger and when it comes to an event, the always recording cameras have ALWAYS provided more insight.
With the low cost of storage and modern compression vs the price you pay to run BI + Camera's really worth the risk of missing events? Only you can answer that.
PS: I have many cameras at home, overlapping and not all are constant recording, that is how I know.
 
Village Guy said:
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Indeed you have expressed your opinion many times. With respect my post was addressed to @columbusgeek!
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Same answer really. I have been a user since early BI4. I thought I had it all figured out, triggers working well with my testing, and still had a $700 diesel tuner stolen from my truck. Nothing picked up the individual on cameras, of which I have many. Nothing got triggered and I had no continuous footage to review. Lesson learned. Now Sentry flags things for my convenience, (possibly replaced by OPs tool) and footage is also collected continuously and chopped into hour-long chunks for specific cameras. I've never missed an event now, even if the automated side of things malfuncitons.
 
columbusgeek said:
Same answer really. I have been a user since early BI4. I thought I had it all figured out, triggers working well with my testing, and still had a $700 diesel tuner stolen from my truck. Nothing picked up the individual on cameras, of which I have many. Nothing got triggered and I had no continuous footage to review. Lesson learned. Now Sentry flags things for my convenience, (possibly replaced by OPs tool) and footage is also collected continuously and chopped into hour-long chunks for specific cameras. I've never missed an event now, even if the automated side of things malfuncitons.
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Thanks for your feedback. Your bottom line seems to be reliability based upon an earlier unfortunate experience. On the basis of 'don't fix it if it is not broken' I can understand that.
 
AITool Version 2.0.703.7716

I have attached a link below to the latest version of AITOOL for anyone that would like to test the new version and unable to compile it yourself. Please be aware this version is in BETA it is NOT released!

Please discuss / post issues here

At this time I recommend you NOT delete the default camera. I have found it deletes the next camera in the list and reinstates the default.

Download Link
 
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Hi all

I've used BI for a while with a small 2 fairly low res camera setup recording 24/7 and relying on BI triggers to bookmark events but having moved house recently and installed some additional cameras I realised I needed to be smarter at what was being recorded in full definijtion and came across AITools setup via The Hookup Youtube vid.

Anyway, I've got everything set up and I thought detection was working pretty well after some initial teething issues, but this evening my wife returned home driving in the dark and despite the camera being triggered and the jpg analysed, this was determined to be a false alarm despite having car ticked and 0% lower confidence limit. Is there anything I can do to help eliminate these missed events where a car's headlights are coming towards the camera and presumably the AI isn't seeing the car's outline to make a positive ID?

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Thanks
 
Locoblade said:
Hi all

I've used BI for a while with a small 2 fairly low res camera setup recording 24/7 and relying on BI triggers to bookmark events but having moved house recently and installed some additional cameras I realised I needed to be smarter at what was being recorded in full definijtion and came across AITools setup via The Hookup Youtube vid.

Anyway, I've got everything set up and I thought detection was working pretty well after some initial teething issues, but this evening my wife returned home driving in the dark and despite the camera being triggered and the jpg analysed, this was determined to be a false alarm despite having car ticked and 0% lower confidence limit. Is there anything I can do to help eliminate these missed events where a car's headlights are coming towards the camera and presumably the AI isn't seeing the car's outline to make a positive ID?

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Thanks
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Resolution is fine, but increase the bit-rate (quality) of whatever stream you are sending to AI Tool, there is a lot of artifacting.
Experiment with exposure options such as HLC.
Experiment with contrast. That angle detecting a car at night 100% of the time will be tough
 
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Village Guy said:
Here you go but there is nothing special in the setup of these. I have copied both Master & CloneView attachment 82812View attachment 82813
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So the top one that uses the [UK] Home profile is the Master and the one takes jpegs and sends them to AI Tool on ALL motion? And the bottom one that uses the [Spain] Home profile is Clone and the one that is triggered by AI Tool confirmed events?

along the same line: Which logical camera profile do you mark Clone Master on the general tab?

edit: what does the "Also re-triggers" button do?
 
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I'm testing both Pushover and Telegram for notifications. Pushover is working but Telecom isn't. Any tips on getting it to work? Thanks!
 
Just out of curiosity, has anybody heard any rumors about "AITool" type functionality eventually getting built directly into Blue Iris? I know BI has a service of its own, but surely the writing is on the wall regarding what the customers want (and Sentry isn't it) so I think the motivation is there, just wondering if we've heard anything.

Note: I'm not talking about the AI server, just the middleman service of passing photos and results back and forth.
 
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