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yes looks like it is Russian footage ..
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yes looks like it is Russian footage ..
Then is this German article, saying Russia was promised that NATO expansion would stop short of Ukraine, fake news? It's from Die Welt and is in German. Here's part of the translation:
"We have made it clear that we are not expanding NATO beyond the Elbe," German diplomat Jürgen Chrobog wrote of a meeting of the US, Britain, France and Germany in March 1991. This document confirms Russia's view of eastward enlargement.
In a note from the British National Archives, which has only now surfaced, supports the Russian claim that the West has violated 1990 promises with NATO's eastward expansion. This is reported by the "Spiegel".
Bonn's representative Jürgen Chrobog stated at the time: "We made it clear in the two-plus-four negotiations that we are not expanding NATO beyond the Elbe. We cannot therefore offer NATO membership to Poland and the others."
Archivfund bestätigt Sicht der Russen bei Nato-Osterweiterung (Archive find confirms russian view of NATO's eastward expansion)
"We have made it clear that we are not expanding NATO beyond the Elbe," German diplomat Jürgen Chrobog wrote of a meeting of the US, Britain, France and Germany in March 1991. This document confirms Russia's view of eastward enlargement.
In a note from the British National Archives, which has only now surfaced, supports the Russian claim that the West has violated 1990 promises with NATO's eastward expansion. This is reported by the "Spiegel".
Bonn's representative Jürgen Chrobog stated at the time: "We made it clear in the two-plus-four negotiations that we are not expanding NATO beyond the Elbe. We cannot therefore offer NATO membership to Poland and the others."
Archivfund bestätigt Sicht der Russen bei Nato-Osterweiterung (Archive find confirms russian view of NATO's eastward expansion)
@tigerwillow1, Did you know that the "Holy Roman Empire" only got so far as the Elbe River?
Don't know much about history, don't know much biology, don't know much about a science book................
But I do know a little bit about IP cams!
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Here's the reason ..
Russia is a massive Petro state .. it has Europe as it's best customers .. and ..
2012 - Ukraine Gas Fields discovered..
2014 .. Russia takes Crimea and an estimated 80% of the gas ..
also note the shale oil fields in the Donbass region ..
ref:
Russia is a massive Petro state .. it has Europe as it's best customers .. and ..
2012 - Ukraine Gas Fields discovered..
2014 .. Russia takes Crimea and an estimated 80% of the gas ..
also note the shale oil fields in the Donbass region ..
ref:
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Stories, stories, stories. What to believe, what to believe, what to believe... (how about nothing...)
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Snake Island border guards who defied Russia warship 'may be alive': report
The 13 Ukrainian troops on Zmiiniy Island, or "Snake" Island, might still be alive after defying a Russian warship last week – after they were previously believed to have been killed, the Ukrainian government said.
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That is great propaganda. Those vehicles must have been brand new, considering how CLEAN they were.
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Interesting, from FOX
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US has ‘no argument’ to make no-fly zone over Ukraine: ‘just not going to happen’
A senior U.S. defense official told Fox News that President Biden has ruled out setting up a no-fly zone over Ukraine.
The current stance holds that a no-fly zone would mean the U.S. had entered the conflict, which Biden has said is not on the table.
“The President had been clear that US troops, US forces will not be used inside Ukraine,” the official said.
But the official added that the Russian convoy has made “no appreciable movement” towards Kyiv, and soldiers are running out of food. The official said there is “no reason to doubt” reports that Russian soldiers are also punching holes in their own fuel tanks to stop their vehicles advancing.
Putin's 40 miles of killing machines taunt Ukraine's capital: LIVE UPDATES
Russia's invasion of Ukraine stretched into a sixth day Tuesday, as a 40-mile Russian convoy menaced the Ukrainian capital city of Kyiv and Ukrainian officials accused Russia of using a vacuum bomb.
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A senior U.S. defense official told Fox News that President Biden has ruled out setting up a no-fly zone over Ukraine.
The current stance holds that a no-fly zone would mean the U.S. had entered the conflict, which Biden has said is not on the table.
“The President had been clear that US troops, US forces will not be used inside Ukraine,” the official said.
But the official added that the Russian convoy has made “no appreciable movement” towards Kyiv, and soldiers are running out of food. The official said there is “no reason to doubt” reports that Russian soldiers are also punching holes in their own fuel tanks to stop their vehicles advancing.
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Also a very interesting development just 24 hours after they indicated they would…
bigredfish
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Here's a 3-1/2 minute point of view from Ben Swann, who left the MSM a few years ago to seek honest reporting. One thing he points out is how the US orchestrated an overthrow of the Ukrainian government 8 years ago.
3 REASONS THE U.S. RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING IN UKRAINE
3 REASONS THE U.S. RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING IN UKRAINE
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And let's remember who POTUS was eight years ago, Barack Insane O'bummer.
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in european media we have a list who is the worst president in history of all media
1. bush junior
and since trump was president no one ever talked about bush again, so
1. trump
best president
1. jfk
2. obama