Even if Biden wins Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Maine, it will only put him at 255 electoral votes versus Trump's 280 electoral votes. The projected winners are clear, with over 90% of the votes already in, the differences are negligible and will likely not make any significant difference. Recounting is futile, that raises suspicion, Period.
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These are the nine states that have not yet been called, whose electoral votes are still up for grabs:
- Alaska
- Arizona
- Georgia
- Michigan
- Maine
- Nevada
- North Carolina
- Pennsylvania
- Wisconsin
You are kidding, right? I am all for Trump winning, but there is no law that states votes must all be counted on election day. Vote counting has never stopped at midnight.
Looking at the numbers, and it appears that PA has stopped reporting since about 1:00am CST, it is thus:
NV - Biden <8k over Trump with 67% counted, definitely could go either way.
WI - Biden 21k over Trump with 95% counted, Biden will probably prevail.
MI - Trump 24k over Biden with 91% counted. Trump may prevail.
GA - Trump 102K over Biden with 94% counted. But the remaining precincts are in heavy Dem areas around Atlanta. So who knows?
NC - Trump 75K over Biden with 94% counted. Trump may prevail.
PA - Trump 665k over Biden with 64% counted. So that's a shit load of ballots not yet counted. Who knows?
This is going to be a while. I do not think it will be known with any certainty before tomorrow.
NV - Biden <8k over Trump with 67% counted, definitely could go either way.
WI - Biden 21k over Trump with 95% counted, Biden will probably prevail.
MI - Trump 24k over Biden with 91% counted. Trump may prevail.
GA - Trump 102K over Biden with 94% counted. But the remaining precincts are in heavy Dem areas around Atlanta. So who knows?
NC - Trump 75K over Biden with 94% counted. Trump may prevail.
PA - Trump 665k over Biden with 64% counted. So that's a shit load of ballots not yet counted. Who knows?
This is going to be a while. I do not think it will be known with any certainty before tomorrow.
Just heard Nevada may not have total count till Nov. 10th, we know PA set Friday for mail-in ballots that if post marked by Election Day will still be counted.
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So my question is why can't these states get their s**t together. Look how many other states are at least 97% of the vote already counted, Much Bigger States at that...
I think MI is the decider here for Trump...he needs all 4, MI, GA, NC & PA
There will be lawsuits for sure.
There was a good discussion on Fox last night about potential litigation RE PA. As it was discussed, the Constitution gives the State's Legislature the power to define election rules for their state. But what has happened in PA, and maybe elsewhere, was that election commission officials or others in the state government, made changes to the rules that were not approved by the State Legislature. Things like counting ballots that arrive after election day, not needing to match signatures on mailed in ballots, etc. Now there were law suits brought to stop that but the State Supreme court sided with PA and when it was kicked up to the US Supreme Court, it was a 4-4 tie on whether or not to hear the case, so it was kicked back the State Court and that ruling was upheld. The commentators view was that the Chief Justice, and all the others, really do not want to get involved in election issues, citing the fiasco of 2000. But I think they are going to now have to make some tough decisions. There are nine justices now so there will be no tie. If they had heard the case back in October before the election, things would have been decided one way or another, but they would not be 'picking the next president' as will probably be the case now that after the election there will be litigation no matter who 'wins' PA.
There was a good discussion on Fox last night about potential litigation RE PA. As it was discussed, the Constitution gives the State's Legislature the power to define election rules for their state. But what has happened in PA, and maybe elsewhere, was that election commission officials or others in the state government, made changes to the rules that were not approved by the State Legislature. Things like counting ballots that arrive after election day, not needing to match signatures on mailed in ballots, etc. Now there were law suits brought to stop that but the State Supreme court sided with PA and when it was kicked up to the US Supreme Court, it was a 4-4 tie on whether or not to hear the case, so it was kicked back the State Court and that ruling was upheld. The commentators view was that the Chief Justice, and all the others, really do not want to get involved in election issues, citing the fiasco of 2000. But I think they are going to now have to make some tough decisions. There are nine justices now so there will be no tie. If they had heard the case back in October before the election, things would have been decided one way or another, but they would not be 'picking the next president' as will probably be the case now that after the election there will be litigation no matter who 'wins' PA.
I totally agree. It's not like they did not have time to prepare. The one that really frosts my cranberry bogs is the precincts around Atlanta. What are they doing? Holding back the count as a teaser? Hoping they find more Dem votes?
I hear ya. The Radio station I listen too last night stated that one county had a policy that if they could not verify/read the post mark to count the vote anyway. Verifying signatures is another huge problem. Trump is right, these issues are all in question and well should be.
I know. And what is really funny about that is that the talking heads seem to think once Friday hits the will be done in PA. Well ballots in PA arriving by midnight will still be needed to be counted. And these are mail-ins. Will they count on Saturday? I bet they do not finish on Friday.
Yup Biden 10k over Trump. So in getting 3% more precincts, Biden picked up 34k more votes that Trump.
So I have been looking at the Blue states Trump turned Red in 2016, going back and forth to see which ones possibly go back Blue.
I still believe, in the end, President Trump will remain for a 2nd term. What REALLY bothers me....is how can the voters that vote these vile creatures in call themselves Americans? It blows my mind......
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I think Michigan is make or break at this point (16 electoral votes)
I think we are underestimating the Women vote again...I still believe, in the end, President Trump will remain for a 2nd term. What REALLY bothers me....is how can the voters that vote these vile creatures in call themselves Americans? It blows my mind......
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