sebastiantombs
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Of course, no one else in Chicago, other than her highness, is entitled to safety. How she had the brass to say that boggles my mind.
US Elections (& Politics) :)
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Saw this article saying that most people don't believe that Biden will finish his first term.
nypost.com
Over half of likely voters don’t believe Joe Biden will finish first term: poll
More than half of likely voters believe that presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden would not finish his first term if elected president, a new poll found. The poll, released Monday by Rasmussen …
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bigredfish
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Yep, Dems are all voting for Ca Ma La
bigredfish
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ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Jessie.slimer
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Jessie.slimer
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People's minds are made up. Nobody is out there deciding between Trump and Biden at this point. No minds will be changed. It's a matter of getting your base out to vote, and not sitting this one out.
Jessie.slimer
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It's too dangerous to leave the house one time to vote, so let's all get together and rally for mail in voting. 
Get rid of the electoral college. For a true democracy to exist, let the everyday American citizen vote.
sebastiantombs
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Sure, great system. Let Commiefornia and New Yawk decide who governs. Guaranteed to be a "good" outcome that way.
Jessie.slimer
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Um, no. Our Founding Fathers were much smarter than us in setting us up as a republic, not a democracy
There's been so much controversy over the electoral college, particularly the 2000 election. People argue that their votes don't count and that depending on which party wins, it is the number of delegates (representing that particular party) in that state that count towards the vote for that particular party. Its a democratic republic. A lot people that don't get out to vote don't get out to vote due to the preconceived notion their votes are not factored into the actual electoral process.
Jessie.slimer
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I come from a state where my vote doesn't count, and I still believe the EC is one of the best things preventing a runaway government. CA, NY, and IL would choose the president every 4 years without it. Many more votes would not count.
Armed&Overclocked
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The EC needs an overhaul. I do believe that it has value, but the manner in which it is currently works is very self defeating for a lot of people.
Specifically we need to change the winner take all component of the EC, and break it down on a per district basis. If my district goes blue, but my dad's goes red then that should be one vote blue and another vote red. Simply having 1 more vote than the other side changing the course of the election for everyone in that state is nuts.
This would also change the way presidents campaign as they would have to work a bit harder to reach more people instead of courting the voters in the city knowing if they get the big city the entire state will go with it.
while we are at it we should also remove party affiliations from the ballots. If they need the "R" or the "D" next to someone's name to know whether or not to vote for them, then they didn't do enough homework. This would help get more third party candidates elected, IMO, which are necessary for making the two primary parties do better about being decent humans, let alone decent politicians.
Specifically we need to change the winner take all component of the EC, and break it down on a per district basis. If my district goes blue, but my dad's goes red then that should be one vote blue and another vote red. Simply having 1 more vote than the other side changing the course of the election for everyone in that state is nuts.
This would also change the way presidents campaign as they would have to work a bit harder to reach more people instead of courting the voters in the city knowing if they get the big city the entire state will go with it.
while we are at it we should also remove party affiliations from the ballots. If they need the "R" or the "D" next to someone's name to know whether or not to vote for them, then they didn't do enough homework. This would help get more third party candidates elected, IMO, which are necessary for making the two primary parties do better about being decent humans, let alone decent politicians.
A Peggy Noonan column from yesterday has a statement that intrigues me. It's the last 2 sentences of this paragraph about Obama's speech:
"This is a former president calling the current one shallow and lazy. He also suggested he’s greedy and intellectually incapable. Unprecedented? Yes. Unjustified? No, alas. And I’m not seeing Trump supporters rise up in indignant defense. They know it’s true, too. "
She asserts that Trump supporters don't push back on him being demonized because they know the claims are true. I think she has her head totally in the sand, and Trump supporters don't push back because they've learned it's a total waste of time and energy. They view the dems as programmed bots that don't give a dang about anything except throwing their tantrums to win what they want. There's no debate, compromise, or truce available, so why bother trying? The left will keep rattling their sabers to taunt the Trump supporters, who are better off not taking the bait, and expending their energy for the real battle at the ballot box.
Opinion | The Democrats Miss the Meaning
"This is a former president calling the current one shallow and lazy. He also suggested he’s greedy and intellectually incapable. Unprecedented? Yes. Unjustified? No, alas. And I’m not seeing Trump supporters rise up in indignant defense. They know it’s true, too. "
She asserts that Trump supporters don't push back on him being demonized because they know the claims are true. I think she has her head totally in the sand, and Trump supporters don't push back because they've learned it's a total waste of time and energy. They view the dems as programmed bots that don't give a dang about anything except throwing their tantrums to win what they want. There's no debate, compromise, or truce available, so why bother trying? The left will keep rattling their sabers to taunt the Trump supporters, who are better off not taking the bait, and expending their energy for the real battle at the ballot box.
Opinion | The Democrats Miss the Meaning
Really like your idea of removing party affiliations next to their names on the ballots, forced people to make educated decisions (educated as long as those elected officials deliver)
Armed&Overclocked
Pulling my weight
yea if we can get that plus ranked voting i firmly believe we'd start seeing more third party candidates on the ballot.
Sounds good, but if you do not put an affiliation next to there name it deters people. Some people have an attention expansion that only last a few seconds with selective hearing and seeing.
Some examples; Republic of Unity, Democrat of the Empire, Independent Socialist, etc..
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When I was a kid going to school in Chicago, one of the voting machines was brought in for show-and-tell. Whoever was presenting pointed out how you can pull all the levers for individual candidates, or just pull one lever to vote straight partly line for everybody. I don't remember if we were told specifically which party to vote for, but voting straight ticket was definitely encouraged.
sebastiantombs
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Imagine a world where Facebook, YouTube and Twitter merge into one service.....called YouFaceTwit.
