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Mate if you need to be told what she is on her knees for, then you have lead a sheltered and deprived life.



What does that mean to you exactly? Almost all judges were defence counsel in a former life before they got the call to the bench.



I feel sorry for that Magistrate, and for that matter any Magistrate before whom any warrant related to this whole saga is placed. It will not matter how correct their decision is at law, one side or the other will claim that it wasn't, without any actual proof of malfeasance. It really is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.




That's not a longboard you land locked heathen.
Have you read the article? He’s no choir boy. He’s dirty. Why, given the high profile raid that they knew would be front page news, would you pick this rather low level magistrate to issue the search order? They had at the very least many dozens of higher level judges to choose from…You haven’t been keeping up on the news if you still think the eff bee eye is a clean righteous organization.
 

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The Select Committee to Investigate Jan. 6 has adjourned for a well-deserved summer break. Misleading the public is exhausting work.


A careful review
of the official transcripts of its eight long hearings shows the committee repeatedly made connections that weren’t there, took events and quotes out of context, exaggerated the violence of the Capitol rioters, and omitted key exculpatory evidence otherwise absolving former President Donald Trump of guilt. While in some cases, it lied by omission, in others, it lied outright. It also made a number of unsubstantiated charges based on the secondhand accounts—hearsay testimony—of a young witness with serious credibility problems.

These weren’t off-the-cuff remarks. Panelists didn’t misspeak. Their statements were tightly scripted and loaded into teleprompters, which they read verbatim.

In other words, the committee deliberately chummed out disinformation to millions of viewers of not just cable TV, but also the Big Three TV networks—ABC, CBS, and NBC—which agreed to preempt regular daytime and even primetime programming to air the Democratic-run hearings.
And because Democrats refused to allow dissenting voices on the panel or any cross-examination of witnesses, viewers had no reference points to understand how they, along with the two Trump-hating Republicans they allowed on the committee, shaded the truth.
 

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C'mon man...Trump was only protecting the sovereignty of the USA by doing what he had to do in Mar-A-Lago. Its not like he was selling this country to the Chinese :rofl:
Now he is testifying today. Don't worry....he is only securing 2024 ;)

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I think they will keep pushing and pushing until a group of people say enough is enough and push back.

Granted it may only be a small group of conservatives, but the state run media will take it and run with the story about “Trumpers are rioting”


If all else fails they’ll have antifa wear maga hats and start rioting, beating grandmas up and hitting little girls.


August 10, 2022

"All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force." - George Orwell

Dear Patriots,


The Global Elites are now resorting to unconstitutional force against a former President and potential candidate. The fact is, we are on to their game. And they are losing. We know their frauds. We know they lie to us. We know they cheat. We have the facts to prove it. They have so abused their power and treated conservatives so differently they have caused us to lose all trust in them and the government they control. Their frauds are exposed. So, they are now reduced to using force.

By the way, the true colors of our political leaders and candidates are on full display now. Be on the look out for the elected Republicans and candidates who are not outraged, who simply propose another meaningless investigation, or who stay silent about this egregious FBI action. It will be obvious who you shall never trust again.



1- The FBI raid on the home of President Trump was criminal. We are outraged.

Front Page Magazine

End of the Republic

QUOTE: When the FBI raided Donald Trump's home on Monday, a key aspect of what made the United States of America great and free has been lost, and likely cannot be recovered. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson detested one another for years before their eventual reconciliation, but neither one used the agencies of the U.S. government to hound, persecute or discredit the other.

Other bitter political opponents throughout the history of the republic have never before used the government's own mechanisms of justice to do injustice to their foes. Joe Biden, Merrick Garland and their henchmen have brought America to a new phase of its history, and it is not likely to be one that is marked by respect for the rule of law or defense of the rights of individual citizens.

Instead, we are entering an ugly age of authoritarianism, in which the brute force of the state is used to bend the people to the will of the tyrant.

Trump announced on Monday, "These are dark times for our Nation, as my beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents. Nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before. After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate."

The 45th president is not given to understatement, but the FBI raid on his home is much more than just unnecessary and inappropriate. It is criminal. The FBI that was heavily involved in trying to frame and destroy Trump in the Russian Collusion hoax is now trying once again to destroy him, apparently by claiming that he improperly took classified material from the White House.

They never cared when Hillary Clinton misused classified material on a grand scale; what is the difference? They're also likely trying to find something to link him more firmly to the January 6 "insurrection" that never was. The Left's January 6 narrative has been full of holes from the beginning: Trump told the demonstrators to proceed peacefully, the people who entered the Capitol had no weapons, and no one had sketched out any kind of plan to do what the Left continues to claim that Trump was trying to do all along, overthrow the government and rule as a dictator.




2- Margot Cleveland at The Federalist discusses the many reasons not to trust anything the left tries to say about the raid.

The Federalist

Search Warrant Or Not, Americans Have No Reason To Believe The FBI Raid On Trump's Florida Home Was Justified

QUOTE: After news broke Monday evening that the FBI had raided former President Donald Trump's Palm Beach Florida home at Mar-a-Lago, the right immediately expressed outrage and warned that by targeting a former president and political opponent, the Biden Administration had crossed the Rubicon.

The left, for its contribution, highlighted the federal statute that provides that a person who "unlawfully conceals" government records shall "be disqualified from holding any office under the United States," suggesting that the raid's apparent focus on supposed missing classified documents may render Trump ineligible to run in 2024.

As of publication, no explanation has been offered. But it doesn't matter. No matter what Garland or Wray say, no matter what the FBI attested to in a search warrant application, no matter what cause a federal judge found, Americans won't trust them and they shouldn't.






3- Dershowitz is the rare liberal Biden voter who can be trusted to tell the truth on the law.

RED STATE

Alan Dershowitz Rips FBI Raid on Trump, Raises Legal Questions About How It Was Conducted

QUOTE: Constitutional scholar Alan Dershowitz is calling it "misconduct." According to him, in an appearance on Newsmax, such a raid should be the method of last resort, unless they can't get the documents through subpoenas or any other lawful methods.

"The raid is supposed to be a last resort," he said. "But this administration has used the weaponization of the justice system against its political enemies. It has arrested people, denied them bail, put them in handcuffs – used all kinds of techniques that are not usually applied to American citizens. I just hope this raid has the justification. If it doesn't have the justification, the materials seized in it will be suppressed."

"This is improper, and this is misconduct," Dershowitz said if they didn't have any more justification. "We have to find out what the facts are. But we have to make sure the shoe fits on the other foot – that we want to make sure what is being one here is something that Democrats would not oppose if it were being done to Democratic operatives, as well."




4- You have to love this Trump reaction. And despite this invasion he met his committment to support Sarah Palin.

DAILY MAIL

'Another day in paradise. This is a strange day': Trump jokes about FBI raid during rally for Palin

QUOTE: Donald Trump on Monday evening wryly joked about the FBI raid on his Mar-a-Lago estate, telling a rally: 'Another day in paradise'.

The former president dialed in to a 'tele-rally' for Sarah Palin, as the former governor of Alaska and vice presidential candidate aims to claim the state's only seat in the House at a special election on August 16.

Palin introduced Trump to her followers listening in, and said that they should all be grateful the 76-year-old was keeping his commitment to address them, despite the strains of the day.

'Another day in paradise,' Trump said. 'This is a strange day.'

He then moved on to reminisce about a visit to Alaska.






5- While it is a tempting to storm the ramparts, we agree with Red State that we must not fall into that trap. Keep your cool.

Red State

After the FBI's Trump Raid, Don't Take the Bait

QUOTE: On Monday evening, the FBI took the unprecedented step of raiding the home of former President Donald Trump. What were they looking for? Astonishingly, what is being leaked to the media is that they were after documents that possibly violated the Presidential Records Act.

Further, the FBI specifically wants justification to fight its war on "domestic terrorism." They want to crush you and anyone who thinks like you. All they need is some on the right to lash out to enact their plan, and they have the entirety of the country's institutions, including the press, supporting them.

Let me be frank: Do not give them what they want.

Now is not the time to play into the hands of our opponents, and you will not beat the FBI and these other corrupt institutions via disorganized attacks from the outside, no matter how good it might feel in the short term. A red line was crossed with this raid on Trump's home, and electoral vengeance is justified. But it must come in ways that are actually effective, and that means being strategic and playing the long game.

It's going to take a Republican Congress in 2023 and a Republican president in 2025 to make any headway against this insanity. There is no other way, and once the tables are turned, any Republican politician who doesn't have the stomach to fight back must be banished.






6- Mark Steyn lays out the truth of this horrible situation.

Mark Steyn

Criminalizing Opposition in a Pseudo-Republic

QUOTE: For almost a decade and a half now, the American "republic" has been decaying to the defining condition of a one-party state - that is, the total merger of the ruling party and the state.

The default position for what's left of the opposition party ought to be that the FBI is beyond reform, and will be replaced by a new agency with vastly circumscribed powers.

Instead, I see Kevin McCarthy is now threatening Merrick Garland with an "investigation" and ordering him to preserve all documents. Ooooooh! Maybe, after the coming Republican landslide, they can appoint an independent counsel; maybe John Durham or Robert Mueller is available. Why would anyone take McCarthy's threat seriously? If you don't grasp that in today's America there is no equality before the law, there is no point even discussing public affairs.

As for Trump, well, on The Mark Steyn Show three days after the "election" I suggested:


It's my view that after the Biden regime takes power, as in many coup situations, they will want to have the previous leader arrested. I'm being perfectly serious here. It is the intention of the Democrat Party to put Trump in jail. So, when he launches the 'Trump News Network', it's gonna need to be based out of Costa Rica or the Turks and Caicos or somewhere.
Does that sound a little extreme? Well, here was The Washington Post's recovering "conservative" columnist Jennifer Rubin round about the same time:
It's not only that @realDonaldTrump has to lose, his enablers have to lose. We have to collectively burn down the Republican Party. We have to level them. Because if there are survivors....they will do it again.


7- Watch this ad released hours after the raid.

"Soon we will have greatness again."—President Donald Trump

Breitbart

QUOTE: A defiant President Donald Trump released a new political video early Tuesday morning after the FBI raided his home at Mar-a-Lago.




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Would they still be using tapes?

From a NY Times story:
"After Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago, they subpoenaed the Trump Organization for a copy of Mar-a-Lago’s surveillance tapes, a person with knowledge of the matter said. The company complied, turning over the tapes to the government."
 

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EXCLUSIVE: Eric Trump reveals what REALLY happened in FBI raid: President's son says agents REFUSED to hand over warrant, kicked lawyer off property, searched Melania's clothes - and ordered security cameras to be turned off

Eric Trump revealed FBI agents refused to hand over the search warrant for their raid on Mar-a-Lago and kicked an attorney off the property in a new, incisive account of the Monday operation at the Florida estate.

Speaking exclusively to DailyMail.com, the former president's son said the 30 agents who arrived at the property asked staff to turn security cameras off – but they refused.

The bureau, he said, also brought safe crackers in to break into his father's safe, and he slammed the investigators for rummaging former first lady Melania's wardrobe and searching through clothing.

He called the raid another 'coordinated attack' on his father Donald Trump and insisted there is no way President Joe Biden was kept in the dark about the search.

The latest explosive account comes with the Department of Justice facing mounting pressure to explain what grounds they had for the search.

Eric said that his father's lawyer Christina Bobb was forced to stand at the end of the Mar-a-Lago driveway throughout the raid.

'There's 30 agents there,' he recalled of the Monday search in a phone call with DailyMail.com. 'They told our lawyer… you have to leave the property right now. Turn off all security cameras.'

'They would not give her the search warrant,' he claimed. 'So they showed it to her from about 10 feet away. They would not give her a copy of the search warrant.'

Eric Trump reveals what REALLY happened in the FBI raid | Daily Mail Online
 

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Trump takes 5th Amendment in NY Civil Case

Trump just posted on Truth that he took the 5th

Commentary from another forum:
"When I see this, I wonder if Trump was so thrilled with the FBI raid at Mar-A-Lago that he helped orchestrate it himself.
The FBI raid gave him all the political cover he needed to assert his Fifth Amendment rights in this civil deposition."
 

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'They would not give her the search warrant,' he claimed. 'So they showed it to her from about 10 feet away. They would not give her a copy of the search warrant.'
So my question is, if you cannot see/read the search warrant, is it really a true legal search? Could one just refuse access till the warrant is handed over?
 
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DEMS TRYING TO RE-CLASSIFY THE DOCS TO KEEP COPIES OF THEM OUT OF COURT LATER THIS MONTH?

[ Explains the timing, and the rush. ]

“Trump declassified whole sets of materials in anticipation of leaving government that he thought the American public should have the right to read themselves,” Patel told Breitbart News in a phone interview.

"The White House counsel failed to generate the paperwork to change the classification markings, but that doesn’t mean the information wasn’t declassified,” Patel said. “I was there with President Trump when he said ‘We are declassifying this information.'”

https:/www.fightwithkash.com/articles/kash-patel-documents-at-mar-a-lago-marked-classified-were-already-declassified
 

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Good question. I bet the Supreme Court will not think to highly of this operation.
True, but the damage is done. Plus they have all the items recovered from the raid that "SURE" ( wink, wink, nudge , nudge, you know what I mean.) that will "never" be disclosed or used in anyway "when" the Supreme Court deems this unConstitional. :mad:
 
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