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These PC people are trying to apply today's "woke" rules to things and people that operated under a totally different set of rules regarding what was acceptable and proper. If that kind of thinking was applied to everything, think about where medicine or physics would be today, still stuck in the Stone Age. Was what was done back then kind of scary and gruesome, certainly, but AT THE TIME it was more than acceptable under the rules of the day and the same is true of slavery which was practiced by the entire world long before, and after, the North American continent was discovered by Europeans.

I saw a post on another board I follow and it was a picture of a nutritional label on a (wait for it)..........bag of ice. That's how far down the drain this country has gone under this kind of "leadership" by the woke folk. What's next, a nutritional label on a water fountain?
 

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Times like this it is good to go back and review what emerged during other times of turbulence, and review some of the core concepts.. in particular socialism / Marxism / fascism / national socialism.

A lot of people really do not understand in theory what the differences are. ( in practice they all become authoritarian .. )


This is a long video, by TIK ( "World War II youtube historian" )

"I’m also not saying that National Socialism was Marxism. Marxism is but one version of
Socialism, and there are many versions of Socialism.
Marxism is not the core concept of
Socialism. In fact, the idea of Socialism predates Marxism. As I will show later, Socialism is
state-control of the economy. Marxism is a class version of this state control of the economy.

..
I also argue that Fascism was a version of Socialism based on nationality rather than race,
and make the case that National Socialism was not Fascism. They are similar, in that they
both embrace Socialism on a national level, and the Fascists also paint themselves as
somewhere between Capitalism and Marxism in ‘Fascist Third Way’. But they are different
because Mussolini and other Fascists didn’t believe in the Racial Theory of History, and
don’t base their ideology on race. The National Socialists on the other hand, base their
ideology on the race,
rather than the nationality. (The race is the nation and the nation is the
race.) Racism is fundamental to National Socialist ideology, and is not fundamental to
Fascism (although some Fascists are racist, just like some Marxists are racist - Stalin, as an
example). In fact, Hitler hated Italian Fascism, and despised Franco’s Fascism - something
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many historians seem to ignore.
8" - TIK


Hitler's Socialism | Destroying the Denialist Counter Arguments

"I am a socialist.” - Hitler, from his "Zweites Buch" (Second Book) Page 50.

Some continue to believe that Hitler and National Socialism wasn't REAL (National) Socialism. Some believe that the totalitarian State of the Third Reich had no power at all, and that the market was 'free'. They want to believe that Hitler and his State had NO control over the economy, and that the ideology of National Socialism didn't call for the creation of a 'People's State' after the conquest of Lebensraum. Yes, 80 years after the events in question, many are still pushing a contradictory narrative that directly goes against the colossal amount of evidence pointing towards the opposite conclusion, and then refuse to even consider the possibility that they might be wrong in their interpretation. Well today, we will walk through numerous primary and secondary sources, show the substantial amount of flaws in the denialist argument, and present a solid interpretation of the evidence that makes much more sense than the denialist argument ever has.
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The stupidity to see who can out virtue signal is off the charts.

It won’t end well when all the “woke” realize they’ve been played.
What's next?

Will the Oregon State Beavers rename their team?
The AKC doesn't call the breed Black & Tan RACOONHound...will that change?
Did Loretta Lynch, former U.S. AG, ever change her name as suggested?
Will our decks of 52 playing cards end up with hearts, diamonds, clubs and shovels?
Heck, I'm amazed we still have HOMO milk in the dairy case at the grocery store!!

What a bunch of thin-skinned, whiny, over-imaginative, got-nothing-better-to-do morons...got way too much time on their hands.
 
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What's next?

Will the Oregon State Beavers rename their team?
The AKC doesn't call the breed Black & Tan RACOONHound...will that change?
Did Loretta Lynch, former U.S. AG, ever change her name as suggested?
Will our decks of 52 playing cards end up with hearts, diamonds, clubs and shovels?
Heck, I'm amazed we still have HOMO milk in the dairy case at the grocery store!!

What a bunch of thin-skinned, whiny, over-imaginative, got-nothing-better-to-do morons...got way much time on their hands.
What beaver? More like the green haired twats.

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Trump quote of the day - from the liar in chief:

TRUMP, on whether he was expecting legal challenges to his orders: “I didn’t say that. No, no. I didn’t say that.” — news conference Saturday.

THE FACTS: He did say it.

At his news conference a day earlier in Bedminster, New Jersey, Trump said: “Yeah, probably we get sued, but people feel that we can do it.”
 

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Those wacky DEMOCRAT socialist "Peaceful Protesters" were at it again in Chicago last night.


LIVE UPDATES: Looting, Unrest Overnight Across Downtown Chicago; The Loop Shut Down

Chicago rocked by widespread looting caught on video after police-involved shooting

Looting and Chaos Erupt in Downtown Chicago, With Widespread Damage and Shots Fired

Chaos In Chicago: Bridges Raised To Prevent Gun-Toting Looters Getting Downtown


Liberal Democrats, YOU OWN THIS SHIT as you and your race baiting politicians encourage and support the THUGS in places like this, Portland, Seattle, etc.. giving them the cover and "excuse" to vandalize cities, riot, loot and injuring police officers, all with the support of your lackeys in the media.. The protesters useful idiots, most of which have never held down a real job and dont want one, are the true face of the scum sucking, zero personal responsibility, free shit army that is America's Liberal Left.
 
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Those wacky DEMOCRAT socialist "Peaceful Protesters" were at it again in Chicago last night.

Liberal Democrats, YOU OWN THIS SHIT as you and your race baiting politicians encourage and support the THUGS in places like this, Portland, Seattle, etc.. giving them the cover and "excuse" to vandalize cities, riot, loot and injuring police officers, all with the support of your lackeys in the media.. The protesters useful idiots, most of which have never held down a real job and dont want to, are simply the true face of the scum sucking, zero personal responsibility, free shit army that is America's Liberal Left.
Aw, c'mon, bigredfish....don't hold back, tell us what you REALLY think! :lol:

I'm with you, man.
 

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Those wacky DEMOCRAT socialist "Peaceful Protesters" were at it again in Chicago last night.


LIVE UPDATES: Looting, Unrest Overnight Across Downtown Chicago; The Loop Shut Down

Chicago rocked by widespread looting caught on video after police-involved shooting

Looting and Chaos Erupt in Downtown Chicago, With Widespread Damage and Shots Fired

Chaos In Chicago: Bridges Raised To Prevent Gun-Toting Looters Getting Downtown


Liberal Democrats, YOU OWN THIS SHIT as you and your race baiting politicians encourage and support the THUGS in places like this, Portland, Seattle, etc.. giving them the cover and "excuse" to vandalize cities, riot, loot and injuring police officers, all with the support of your lackeys in the media.. The protesters useful idiots, most of which have never held down a real job and dont want to, are simply the true face of the scum sucking, zero personal responsibility, free shit army that is America's Liberal Left.
More peaceful protests from Biden supporters. Bwahahahahahahaha

CHICAGO (CBS)– In what appears to be a widespread, coordinated attack, dozens of stores, banks and other businesses were broken into across downtown Chicago overnight. The looting spread from the Loop, up to the Near North Side.

The unrest started around 11 p.m. Sunday and continued into Monday morning. Video shows multiple cars parked on the streets as people ran out and broke into stores. CBS 2’s Ryan Baker reports that former Bears player Patrick Mannelly witnessed the looting from his high-rise condo and saw cars driving up to a U-Haul truck and putting stolen goods into the trailer.
 

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More peaceful BLM protests. Bwahahahahahahahaha

BLM ‘peaceful protesters’ in Wisconsin attempt to murder Black police officer and his girlfriend

Chants of “Black Lives Matter” were heard outside the home of Wauwatosa police officer Joseph Mensah’s girlfriend’s house Saturday night. Around 50-60 “peaceful protesters” began breaking windows, entering the premises, and shooting at Mensah and his girlfriend with firearms that included at least one shotgun. Mensah is Black. His girlfriend is Black. The children in the home that Black Lives Matter and Antifa “peaceful protesters” were shooting are black.

Cities in Wisconsin are starting to look more like Portland and Seattle as rampant anarchy rules the streets. Neither law enforcement or the people of these communities are safe. The violence and chaos is being perpetrated in the name of Black lives mattering, but the actions do not match the radical leftist rhetoric.

“Last night, protesters came to my girlfriend’s house while I was there, and tried to kill me, Mensah posted on Facebook. “I was unarmed and tried to defend my property and the property of my girlfriend. We were both assaulted, punched, and ultimately shot at several times. A shotgun round missed me by inches.”

 

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You know, Mike, I've been thinking about your post and I do have a comment. There is no need to review systems that don't work, haven't worked and will never work. Everywhere Socialism, in its' many forms, has been tried it has failed miserably. I won't list the countries that have been laid waste by attempts to implement it simply because of the length of that list and we're all familiar with them. Socialism, in every iteration tried, always ends up as a dictatorship run by the elite. It's always interesting to see a new effort being made by a Socialist Savior who proclaims "It will be different under me because I know how to do it right" and it always, always, turns into a despotic mess. Granted, our Representative Republic is doing its' damndest to get there, too, but it has been a much slower progression. Hopefully, this current round of wokeness and socialism, apparently, on the rise will be quelled and eliminated before irreparable damage is done. We can all only hope and support those with a modicum of common sense.
 

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I am a veteran as was my late father. We both served in wars and conflicts in foreign lands to defend those that could not defend themselves against oppressive regimes and despots.

Now that battle is here, right here on our own soil.

Personally, I don't give a damn what part of my membership fees went into who's pockets at the NRA.

I'm an old combat vet, too. With the Army in Vietnam, with the 101st and Special Forces. I mostly agree with your post, but the NRA has done precious little for gun rights since they've decided to focus on stealing money from their membership instead. Some clubs require NRA membership, but I can't tolerate a corrupt congressman either just because he votes my way now and then.
 

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I'm an old combat vet, too. With the Army in Vietnam, with the 101st and Special Forces.
Thanks for your service. Bob.
I was Vietnam also, Navy 7th Fleet, Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club, '68-'72.
I mostly agree with your post, but the NRA has done precious little for gun rights since they've decided to focus on stealing money from their membership instead.
I hear ya. Which is why I am also a member of NAGR and BamaCarry
 
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