What display do you use ?

[RonL]

I am still looking to upgrade my 1080p system to 5 or 8 mp.. a hikvision colorvu of some type. However this got me to thinking, I'm going to need a 4k display of some type. I currently use a 32 inch tv. Which I could by a 32 inch samsung 4k tv to swap it out. But then I started thinking about burn in on the tv.
So what is everyone using for thier 4k cameras to display on ?
Follow on post about the cameras comming...

 

[tmxv4128]

I connect the HDMI output from my NVR to an extender, and then I plug that into a 5-port gigabit switch, and then I have receivers for four tv's in various rooms of the house. Works great. A wireless keyboard with trackpad connects to my NVR, so I can control the NVR from any room in the house.

 

[fenderman]

I am still looking to upgrade my 1080p system to 5 or 8 mp.. a hikvision colorvu of some type. However this got me to thinking, I'm going to need a 4k display of some type. I currently use a 32 inch tv. Which I could by a 32 inch samsung 4k tv to swap it out. But then I started thinking about burn in on the tv.
So what is everyone using for thier 4k cameras to display on ?
Follow on post about the cameras comming...

Why do you think you need a 4k display? 4k cameras display just fine on a 1080p display.

 

[biggen]

I am still looking to upgrade my 1080p system to 5 or 8 mp.. a hikvision colorvu of some type. However this got me to thinking, I'm going to need a 4k display of some type. I currently use a 32 inch tv. Which I could by a 32 inch samsung 4k tv to swap it out. But then I started thinking about burn in on the tv.
So what is everyone using for thier 4k cameras to display on ?
Follow on post about the cameras comming...

I use a computer monitor @1440 res. I don’t have my cams displaying 24/7 but if I did I’d still use a computer monitor and not a tv.

Using BI I only view my cams in UI3 at 1080. I find this fine for displaying them live. I have my cams recording at full resolution (mix of 2/4/8MP cams) so i can always download full res clips for viewing at a later time. No need to view live at full resolution.

 

[RonL]

Why do you think you need a 4k display? 4k cameras display just fine on a 1080p display.

It doesn't degrade the picture ? Especially at night ? I'm still trying to learn about this.

 

[Parley]

I use a 28" Samsung 4K monitor. I can tell the difference from my 1080p monitors at my NVR's.

 

[wittaj]

It doesn't degrade the picture ? Especially at night ? I'm still trying to learn about this.

You didn't say what model cameras you have, but it comes down to the camera more than the display. Garbage in = Garbage out

I watch mine on a roughly 720P laptop and is fine for roughly 95% of my viewing.

 

[biggen]

It doesn't degrade the picture ? Especially at night ? I'm still trying to learn about this.

If you are live monitoring craps or poker tables in a casino, then sure, there is a case to be be made for monitoring the highest quality stream available from your cam on the highest quality monitor you can buy. But for most surveillance, we are recording at max quality so we can play back events that happened at a later time. I don’t really need to see the hairs on a visitor face that walks up to my front porch as it happens…

 

[Parley]

If you are live monitoring craps or poker tables in a casino, then sure, there is a case to be be made for monitoring the highest quality stream available from your cam on the highest quality monitor you can buy. But for most surveillance, we are recording at max quality so we can play back events that happened at a later time. I don’t really need to see the hairs on a visitor face that walks up to my front porch as it happens…

Can you see the hairs on a visitors face when you are reviewing the video at a later date with a 1080p monitor?

 

[dudemaar]

Can you see the hairs on a visitors face when you are reviewing the video at a later date with a 1080p monitor?

what's the diff? unless your live viewing. If you check your recorded footage and use the scroll wheel and zoom in on a 1080p monitor those nose hairs will be pretty darn clear at 50%-75% digital zoom. from a good quality 4K camera that's set up properly.

 

[RonL]

There are times when deer are by my driveway and there almost invisible. I obviously need better cameras, but that wasn't my question. I was wondering about burn in from constant live monitoring. And what people are using. I'm working on the cameras, obviously from my other thread. I need to learn more about focal length / sensors.

 

[biggen]

Can you see the hairs on a visitors face when you are reviewing the video at a later date with a 1080p monitor?

Well I use a 4MP monitor so it ain’t shitty on playback. I’d argue the differences between 4MP and 8MP are minuscule unless we are talking about screens in excess of 40”+.

 

[TonyR]

I'd say as long as it's not a CRT (LOL!) or plasma, you'll be OK if you don't let the image stay on more than an hour at a time. Ideally, if it's a fairly new OLED TV it very well might have "pixel shifting" or other tech in it software to prevent Image burn-in or image retention; check with your TV's make and model specs.

newer Samsung, Sony and LG OLED TV's have these measures to prevent image burn-in.

 

[wittaj]

There are times when deer are by my driveway and there almost invisible. I obviously need better cameras, but that wasn't my question. I was wondering about burn in from constant live monitoring. And what people are using. I'm working on the cameras, obviously from my other thread. I need to learn more about focal length / sensors.

Burn in is a remnant of the old CRT days. Computer monitors sit days with windows log in screen or other static images and don't experience burn in.

 

[biggen]

Burn in can still occur. They mitigate it somewhat but it can still happen. My father has a Samsung lcd tv and watches a lot of 24/7 news on one channel. When I turn the tv on, I still see the channel logo in the bottom left of the screen even if its not on the channel.

As cheap as monitors and TVs are these days I don’t think it’s a big deal. If I’m dedicating a monitor/tv for BI 24/7 viewing, I’m probably not buying a top end monitor/tv anyway. It’s whatever is cheapest in the size I want.

 

[fenderman]

It doesn't degrade the picture ? Especially at night ? I'm still trying to learn about this.

No it wont. Time of day is irrelevant. Of course the image you are seeing will be 1080p rather than 4k but you will still get the full clarity of 4k as you zoom in to view something important. Its a complete waste of money particularly since most of the time you are viewing all your cams in a matrix view.
As noted burn in is much less prevalent but there is no difference between a 1080p monitor and a 4k tv. All that said, you can buy a 4k tv for under 200 bux so its negligible.
Consider that if you are connecting to a pc it 4k will consume more resources. Also consider the power consumption of the tv/monitor if it will be on 24/7 displaying your cams.

 

[wittaj]

Here is a screenshot off my laptop 720P resolution monitor. Does it look okay to you?

 

[Mark_M]

It doesn't degrade the picture ? Especially at night ? I'm still trying to learn about this.

Not at all.
The monitor is just previewing or playing back video. The video is still recorded at the camera's output resolution.

Even with a 4k monitor, you shouldn't be filming the monitor with your phone camera to save footage!
Export the footage by plugging a usb into the NVR or export on the phone app or export on the computer app.

 

[wittaj]

Here are a few night image screenshots from the 720P laptop. Rarely do I have to go to a better monitor.

 

[Parley]

what's the diff? unless your live viewing. If you check your recorded footage and use the scroll wheel and zoom in on a 1080p monitor those nose hairs will be pretty darn clear at 50%-75% digital zoom. from a good quality 4K camera that's set up properly.

My experience is different than yours.