They just tried to assassinate Trump

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The thing that baffles me is that he canvased the area a few times. So, he was planning. Just where was he planning on shooting from? Did he PLAN on shooting from the position that he used? If so, how did he know there would not be SS there? Was his plan to just show up and find someplace no agent was at?
Nobody saw him on the ground with a rifle. The theory, as I understand it, is he stashed the rifle somewhere in the area. It seems he would have needed to know the general area where he was going to use it.
 

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The thing that baffles me is that he canvased the area a few times. So, he was planning. Just where was he planning on shooting from? Did he PLAN on shooting from the position that he used? If so, how did he know there would not be SS there? Was his plan to just show up and find someplace no agent was at?
The spot he choose also gave him a clear line to the stage but the SS snipers behind trump could not see him because of the tree. My guess is that a drone would have given him all the intel and recon needed to figure that out.
 

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When I took the oath of office as a deputy with the Sheriff’s Department, right after I signed an agreement that if I was the subject of an investigation, I would be forced to answer questions or be fired. I’m trying to remember the law/precedent. Was it Gilbert? Maybe @CaptainCrunch may know.
The police officer bill of rights. I'm pretty sure it was gilbert. If you force me to make a statement as a condition of continued employment and I do not waive my rights against self incrimination, that statement is administrative and cannot be used as part of a criminal investigation.
 

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The spot he choose also gave him a clear line to the stage but the SS snipers behind trump could not see him because of the tree. My guess is that a drone would have given him all the intel and recon needed to figure that out.
I think the concern behind the question is this: if the shooter could tell that site was an excellent spot, the SS would (should) have seen it as well and placed someone there.
 

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I agree. The department would get some bad press. Department fires/suspends officer responsible for keeping the President safe. And the officer would easily find a job at another department. But, unlike what was mentioned before, I would aim the warning shots into the ground rather than in the air.
I agree with shot in the ground, but for events like this Rally, why could there not of be a type of Panic button that would set off a siren (could be silent), for all that is responsible for security? Triggered by phone or by their communications, I mean something that would of got Trump off stage...
 

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Since the Body Cam video mentioned the shooter had a bike, how many people go to Rally's on bicycles? Just saying...
 

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A bike, and a Hyundai and a white can with AZ plates …. Something ain’t right
"This is his bike with the stuff" Am I hearing this right at 50 second mark???

At 30 second mark it was mentioned the Sniper saw him come from the bike and pictures were sent out...
 
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"This is his bike with the stuff" Am I hearing this right at 50 second mark???

At 30 second mark it was mentioned the Sniper saw him come from the bike and pictures were sent out...
Someone on a bike at a public event is not unheard of. It's not terribly uncommon for people to bring a bike to an event so they can get from the parking lot to the event easier. In this case, there looked like a lot of area outside of the perimeter where people could watch and hear the rally. There's also a residential area across the street from the park where people could bike in from.

As I understand the events, the team in the window saw the shooter on the ground below the window. They took the picture and sent it out. That's one of the pictures that have been released. The team left the building to go find the shooter. While the team was on the ground, the shooter climbed on the roof.
 

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"This is his bike with the stuff" Am I hearing this right at 50 second mark???

At 30 second mark it was mentioned the Sniper saw him come from the bike and pictures were sent out...
Yep the bike had a backpack. They discovered it after the shooting. Said it was his.

But they also said the white van with AZ plates was his and had the explosives…

Apparently AR was a folding stock and was in the backpack
 

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Can you imagine the chaos at an event if you took an agricultural drone and modified it for terror? The Secret Service apparently can't do shit to prevent chaos. There needs to be a huge technology surveillance upgrade of protection. And with a total moron like Kim Cheatbitch running the show, it's wide open for terrorists.
 

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Can you imagine the chaos at an event if you took an agricultural drone and modified it for terror? The Secret Service apparently can't do shit to prevent chaos. There needs to be a huge technology surveillance upgrade of protection. And with a total moron like Kim Cheatbitch running the show, it's wide open for terrorists.
Fpv drones .. a small ai swarm .. gonna need the usa Olympics skeet team on guard
 

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The man is a whimp; barely grazed him and he made millions from it.
 
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