They just tried to assassinate Trump

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Also see this video where this guy did a rather in depth analysis of the audio. While he got the locations of those other three victims wrong, it does show the 15 seconds between the shooter's last shot and the kill shot by the SS. Start at about 5:55 in the video.

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Also see this video where this guy did a rather in depth analysis of the audio. While he got the locations of those other three victims wrong, it does show the 15 seconds between the shooter's last shot and the kill shot by the SS. Start at about 5:55 in the video.
That seems like a very long time to take a 130 yd shot with high powered glass…? Maybe they waited too long…. On purpose
 

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The TMZ video shows the shooter firing and the shooter is still moving or turning his head based on the person taking the video, right after that you hear the kill shot from SS sniper. So its 17 seconds.
I count 3 first shots then 5 burst shots...8 total, then the last suppressed kill shot from the Sniper...

Doubt you would hear the Tower shot in that video, especially if it was suppressed...
 
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I watched the entire video. A few observations:
  1. The LE at first count states 5 casings.
  2. At the end of the video he counts 8 casings.
  3. It looks to me like the AR has a red dot type sight which would not be optimum for 150 yards.
  4. It also looks like the magazine is a 30 round.
  5. There is no bipod on that gun.
  6. I see no barrel rests in the area.
  7. The body is quite far from the roof ridge. Maybe 4 feet?
  8. There are linear marks on the roof ridge in the same vertical seam as the body. The ridge cap is also kind of messed up (for a better term) in that same area as the linear marks.
  9. In the audio there are many references to the water tower coming over the coms, but I can never understand what they are saying about it.
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I'd put my feeling down here. I do not believe there was a conspiracy to have Trump shot and killed. For that to happen, everyone involved would need to keep quiet. Even before that, people would need to be recruited into the group. And that's tougher than it sounds. There's a difference between "I know you don't like Trump so will you help us keep him from running again" and "I know you don't like Trump so will you help us kill him." You'd have to be an excellent judge of character if you're able to pick out only the people who would say yes to the second question. If you're wrong once, then there someone out there who knows you're looking for people who are interested in killing Trump. So when there is an attempted assassination, those people who were approached and said no would have to wonder. That's when leaks happen. On top of the number of people you need, you also need the right people. You could recruit a bunch of mechanics but that doesn't keep the trigger of the sniper rifle from being fired at the assassin. You need to recruit counter snipers. In this case, probably 4 of them. Then you have to make sure only the people you recruited were on the schedule for that detail. There's a lot of logistics that would have to happen.

There's a less intense possible conspiracy. They didn't set it up for Trump to be shot but rather they let open the possibility that he could be shot. The above conspiracy would have to involve the shooter. This one does not. This doesn't guarantee a shooting but if one were to happen, this wouldn't stop it. Interestingly, this may be harder that the first one. You still need to do the recuiting like before but you also have to have the right team in place for multiple events.

In addition to the agency recruiting, you would need the assistance of local and state law enforcement to ensure they aren't protecting the security gaps you planned.
The fact there was a definite lack of security, intentional since Trump has been requesting more security for the last two years, feeds the conspiracy. This is my opinion, if Trump had died, I do not see any of his haters going to his funeral, to me it will be like what happened to Bibi this week in Congress, no Democrats showed up. According to my Lord, all you have to have is hate for your brother in your heart to commit Murder...https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+3%3A15&version=NKJV

So was this a direct planned assassination? Who knows, not everyone has to be involved for that to happen. Why Trump was not taken off stage sooner is my biggest question. Way too many people encountered the shooter (the possible threat)...was the shooter given more time to get his shots off? That can be accomplished by only one person, the one in charge...you don't have to have everyone on board for this to happen...we have a country full of nut cases, IMO, we see this daily in the news with all the crimes. Loosen up on security anywhere and the odds will be in the nut case's favor...
 

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I watched the entire video. A few observations:
  1. The LE at first count states 5 casings.
  2. At the end of the video he counts 8 casings.
  3. It looks to me like the AR has a red dot type sight which would not be optimum for 150 yards.
  4. It also looks like the magazine is a 30 round.
  5. There is no bipod on that gun.
  6. I see no barrel rests in the area.
  7. The body is quite far from the roof ridge. Maybe 4 feet?
  8. There are linear marks on the roof ridge in the same vertical seam as the body. The ridge cap is also kind of messed up (for a better term) in that same area as the linear marks.
  9. In the audio there are many references to the water tower coming over the coms, but I can never understand what they are saying about it.
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Why was the gun so far away from body?

Wow did they struggle walking on that roof:cool:
 

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I don't see how there can be any doubt that the Secret Service was complicit in this attempt to assassinate Trump. If you look at the insane trail of legal hijinks they've used against him, there's little doubt the whole process is unhinged. After this, is it really a far stretch to allow a lone shooter to "take care of the problem"? We won't know who knew what, but clearly, this was steered from the top. These are the people who are out to "save democracy".
 

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Did I just hear two Sniper shots? Also, I did not know they threw Trump's shoe off stage, or someone's shoe...

 

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Why was the gun so far away from body?
SOP, remove the weapon from the reach of the perp. It does not matter that they could 'see' he was dead. You do it every time no matter what. The minute you make it 'optional', is when the process breaks down and bad things happen.

Just like if someone hands me a gun, I will check it to see if it is loaded. Every time. No exceptions. Even if they tell me it is loaded. I check.
 
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