They just tried to assassinate Trump

[CaptainCrunch]

They were looking for the guy on the roof. They didn't remove the president from the stage because they were not next to the president. They are local police. The secret service was next to the police.

 

[CaptainCrunch]

I’m sure anytime now Director Wray, William Burns, the guys who cleaned the house, the command post guy who didn’t relay messages to the Detail on the stage, and the kids Mom will all hold a press conference together with documents and video proving they were complicit and turning themselves in.

Well, some guy told me the house wasn't sanitized. So I guess that proves it wasn't.

 

[bigredfish]

Nobody said “proof”. A US senator got a tip from someone in LE. That’s a little better than “I heard”

 

[bigredfish]

They were looking for the guy on the roof. They didn't remove the president from the stage because they were not next to the president. They are local police. The secret service was next to the police.

Yeah I think we all get that.
They were 130 yds from him and his detail. Even if you assume the best comms in the world failed, someone could have thrown a fucking rock that way and said “hey, we may have an issue here, ya’ll might wanna be careful”

 

[CaptainCrunch]

Nobody said “proof”. A US senator got a tip from someone in LE. That’s a little better than “I heard”

You're a better researcher than I. I'm not able to find anything where Crane said the tip was from someone in LE.

Yeah I think we all get that.
They were 130 yds from him and his detail. Even if you assume the best comms in the world failed, someone could have thrown a fucking rock that way and said “hey, we may have an issue here, ya’ll might wanna be careful”

You're good. Personally, I can't throw a rock 130 yards. You're saying an officer should have stopped looking for the threat and run to the fence, jump the fence, then run to the stage? Is that right?

 

[samplenhold]

I watched that video posted by DiedSuddenly and at no point did the police order people to leave.

I have been thinking about the 15 seconds between the last shot by Crooks and the kill shot. Back in post #627 I made the comment that Crooks was about four feet behind the roof ridge and there were linear marks on the roof ridge cap like rounds came very close as they were shot towards the stage. I thought it strange that he would not be positioned over the ridge cap. There is video of him belly crawling up towards the ridge cap so he was trying to not be seen.

Maybe he took the shots prone on his elbows, four feet downslope of the ridge cap, so as to not be noticed. Maybe the SS Snipers really could not find him at that low angle. Maybe they were not high enough and the ridge cap hid Crooks.

That could account for the 15 seconds before the kill shot. Maybe he took the 8 shots and ducked off his elbows, then came up to make more shots and the SS sniper took him out?

It would be nice to see a view from the sniper's position towards Crooks.

 

[bigredfish]

You're a better researcher than I. I'm not able to find anything where Crane said the tip was from someone in LE.



You're good. Personally, I can't throw a rock 130 yards. You're saying an officer should have stopped looking for the threat and run to the fence, jump the fence, then run to the stage? Is that right?

You can’t yell, or walk 130 yds, or god forbid say something to command via radio? No way to get that info to the right people, nope it’s 130 yards, too far. Oh well.

Look obviously it doesnt matter what I or anyone else says, without video evidence and charts and timelines written out and forensic handwriting analysis of the 100+ person conspiracy and a dna match you are going to defend what we’re seeing. Cool. It all went well. No harm no foul, shit happens. I suspect we’ll here more of the same in the “hearings” and it will all be put to bed.

 

[CaptainCrunch]

You can’t yell, or walk 130 yds, or god forbid say something to command via radio? No way to get that info to the right people, nope it’s 130 yards, too far. Oh well.

Look obviously it doesnt matter what I or anyone else says, without video evidence and charts and timelines written out and forensic handwriting analysis of the 100+ person conspiracy and a dna match you are going to defend what we’re seeing. Cool. It all went well. No harm no foul, shit happens. I suspect we’ll here more of the same in the “hearings” and it will all be put to bed.

And you're sure they didn't radio it in? And I don't need all the stuff you listed. I just haven't seen anything that changes it from complacency into conspiracy.

 

[bigredfish]

There are just too many coincidences of incompetence for that to actually have been a legitimate failure.

 

[CaptainCrunch]

And that goes back to what I said before. Those failures are widespread and covered multiple agencies. That's a lot of planning in a short time with a 100% accuracy rate recruiting people willing to take part in a conspiracy to commit murder.

 

[bigredfish]

OK

 

[dudemaar]

Even the smallest of plans like deploying a drone to check it out. I though most police departments have drones.

 

[bigredfish]

Exclusive | Secret Service delayed Trump from taking Nashville stage after another security lapse: sources

The latest security slip-up came around two weeks after Trump was grazed by a sniper’s bullet during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania where three rally goers were shot, including one fatally.

nypost.com

 

[David L]

Why? At this point, all the guy had done was park in a lot next to police cars. That's not a threat. That's not suspicious activity. That's not even person of interest. That was an FYI text that didn't necessitate conducting an investigation of the vehicle. If they had looked at the van and the driver, the shooting may have never occurred. But you can't know that looking forward.

Crooks snuck in and followed the snipers lead and parked by their cars. That is why he first became a person of interest and a text was sent.

 

[David L]

You're a better researcher than I. I'm not able to find anything where Crane said the tip was from someone in LE.



You're good. Personally, I can't throw a rock 130 yards. You're saying an officer should have stopped looking for the threat and run to the fence, jump the fence, then run to the stage? Is that right?

Sorry, but you are now sounding like how a child would respond. Why so Defensive?

You got to be kidding me, LE looking for someone on the roof would not spark some kind of communications to take Trump off stage?
Why have LE if there is no communications from them?
This is not a small mistake...this is Huge!!! and extremely ridiculous...

 

[bigredfish]

Don’t worry comrades. They have Top Men on it now.
Top.Men.

 

[David L]

With hundreds at this event, more and more phone camera footage is surfacing, here is the Shooter standing alone behind the fence:

 

[David L]

I watched that video posted by DiedSuddenly and at no point did the police order people to leave.

I have been thinking about the 15 seconds between the last shot by Crooks and the kill shot. Back in post #627 I made the comment that Crooks was about four feet behind the roof ridge and there were linear marks on the roof ridge cap like rounds came very close as they were shot towards the stage. I thought it strange that he would not be positioned over the ridge cap. There is video of him belly crawling up towards the ridge cap so he was trying to not be seen.

Maybe he took the shots prone on his elbows, four feet downslope of the ridge cap, so as to not be noticed. Maybe the SS Snipers really could not find him at that low angle. Maybe they were not high enough and the ridge cap hid Crooks.

That could account for the 15 seconds before the kill shot. Maybe he took the 8 shots and ducked off his elbows, then came up to make more shots and the SS sniper took him out?

It would be nice to see a view from the sniper's position towards Crooks.

This makes sense to me...

 

[bigredfish]

If you’re tasked with placing a CS team in the best over watch position, where would you have put them?

 

[mat200]

If you’re tasked with placing a CST team in the best over watch position, where would you have put them?

Water tower


Of course I would need a 45x ptz .. oh .. wait ..