Thanks for that. I have some turrets under eaves and some very exposed to the weather, and where I could see this being most useful is in an exposed position. Turret would be preferable, so I'll be interested to see what you reckon when you get yours.
5 MegaGixel 1/1.8" low light destroyer for $90-AVOID LONGSE JUNK
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Just arrived from sunny Cancun back to rainy Seattle and only had a chance to open the box to look at the contents . So far the packaging and the unit look impressive, all metal and feels very much like Hik turret . Specs state it's a 3.6mm with 0.001 lux in b&w... That white box on the wiring says "POE". I would have preferred it to be internal. More tomorrow, too tired to do anything else
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Short sleep today... Hooked up camera, very easy setup surprisingly and I was WOW'd by the night time picture. I won't post anything yet, because I want to post comparison with Hikvision, but it's damn beautiful. I could see specks of dust in the air in a completely dark room and not a hint of noise without even touching and looking at the settings yet.
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Well for krikey sakes...LET'S SEE IT!
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I am a bit busy this morning and there is so much to explore in this cam so I am just throwing few comparison images just to get a taste of this. I am using 2432 because I can't use direct comparison for either dome 4mp or turret 3mp without taking them down. I did really sloppy job setting both cams to somewhat similar setting. They are using CBR 6000 Bit rate, Hik is set to 1/12 because it doesn't have 1/25 which is a minimum for S500 cam.
A few observations:
1. Install is easy. Plug in the cam to POE. Navigate to 192.168.1.168, install OSX and login with admin/admin.
2. Login screen defaults to Chinese language, have to use the drop down every time to change to English. Perhaps there is a setting to make it stick since the demo is in English
3. The IR lights do no turn off even if you disable IR cut filter, although there is no explicit setting on that, they call it something else. More on that later.
4. I am using auto noise reduction setting and I had to bump up sharpness a bit. There is no ghosting or noise that I noticed using auto noise reduction.
5. Capture didn't work in the UI, might be a bug. I just took screenshots of the images and saved them in 1080p format, so quality is reduced.
6. Works with Hikvision NVR using Onvif profile
2432 using it's own IR only
2432 using it's own IR + 2 additional IRs from the S500 cam
Finally this is S500 in a completely dark room as well
A few observations:
1. Install is easy. Plug in the cam to POE. Navigate to 192.168.1.168, install OSX and login with admin/admin.
2. Login screen defaults to Chinese language, have to use the drop down every time to change to English. Perhaps there is a setting to make it stick since the demo is in English
3. The IR lights do no turn off even if you disable IR cut filter, although there is no explicit setting on that, they call it something else. More on that later.
4. I am using auto noise reduction setting and I had to bump up sharpness a bit. There is no ghosting or noise that I noticed using auto noise reduction.
5. Capture didn't work in the UI, might be a bug. I just took screenshots of the images and saved them in 1080p format, so quality is reduced.
6. Works with Hikvision NVR using Onvif profile
2432 using it's own IR only
2432 using it's own IR + 2 additional IRs from the S500 cam
Finally this is S500 in a completely dark room as well
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The pictures are not displaying.
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I'm the same as @Q2U, can't see them on the forum (desktop browser)
But the links do work if you open them.
http://s16.postimg.org/tf7elwbdv/hik3mp1.jpg
http://s16.postimg.org/cq0wsv8gz/3mp2.jpg
http://s16.postimg.org/dtl14tt43/5mp.jpg
That S500 sure does make a clean image in the dark, and the lens FOV is nearly identical to the Hik.
But the links do work if you open them.
http://s16.postimg.org/tf7elwbdv/hik3mp1.jpg
http://s16.postimg.org/cq0wsv8gz/3mp2.jpg
http://s16.postimg.org/dtl14tt43/5mp.jpg
That S500 sure does make a clean image in the dark, and the lens FOV is nearly identical to the Hik.
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I'm following this with great interest thanks klaspica! I have one of the bullet versions on order (yet to ship...), based on your initial pics and opinion it's looking good.
I'll hold of bugging you with questions until you've had a chance to spend more time with it...
I'll hold of bugging you with questions until you've had a chance to spend more time with it...
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Playing a bit with it. IQ is great and beats any budget Hikvision 4MP day or night. Firmware and UI is crude and limited though, but I knew that:
1. In order to change admin password you will need to fill out the name and password at the top row
2. There is no RTSP port listed anywhere, they said it's combined with HTTP port
3. Motion detection appears to work when sending message/jpeg pictures (which btw are square and low quality with no control over it) via gmail account
4. You can select region in motion detection which is nice touch unlike Huisun
5. Capture button does not work. I have it set to default path and even created folder 'Capture', but I get error 'Capture Failed'
6. Record button does something... or maybe nothing, didn't work for me either.
7. Corridor mode is available
8. I-frame interval lists only 1-5 seconds, not sure if it will be a big deal
9. There is secondary stream, but you can't select it in the web ui, probably just for onvif usage
10. Firmware for mine 5.1.45.3. Which is not listed here, so I am assuming it's the latest one http://www.herospeed.net/herospeed/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=lists&catid=7
1. In order to change admin password you will need to fill out the name and password at the top row
2. There is no RTSP port listed anywhere, they said it's combined with HTTP port
3. Motion detection appears to work when sending message/jpeg pictures (which btw are square and low quality with no control over it) via gmail account
4. You can select region in motion detection which is nice touch unlike Huisun
5. Capture button does not work. I have it set to default path and even created folder 'Capture', but I get error 'Capture Failed'
6. Record button does something... or maybe nothing, didn't work for me either.
7. Corridor mode is available
8. I-frame interval lists only 1-5 seconds, not sure if it will be a big deal
9. There is secondary stream, but you can't select it in the web ui, probably just for onvif usage
10. Firmware for mine 5.1.45.3. Which is not listed here, so I am assuming it's the latest one http://www.herospeed.net/herospeed/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=lists&catid=7
The IR led's look really good and flood the room well but it's hard to understand the true low light capability with a well lit room (IR lit).
Are you able to block off the IR (ie. tape over the IR's) and put on a lamp in an adjacent room to create a low light scene.
Looking forward to seeing a video with motion so I can better see how it performs in low light.
PS. I have just ordered the SMTSEC dome and interestingly, the supplier says the 4mm lense on that provides a 101 degree FOV. I guess we'll see! Will be a few weeks but I'll post a review wen i get it in my other thread
Are you able to block off the IR (ie. tape over the IR's) and put on a lamp in an adjacent room to create a low light scene.
Looking forward to seeing a video with motion so I can better see how it performs in low light.
PS. I have just ordered the SMTSEC dome and interestingly, the supplier says the 4mm lense on that provides a 101 degree FOV. I guess we'll see! Will be a few weeks but I'll post a review wen i get it in my other thread
No I didn't, but they did offer me the choice. Approx 60° was about right for where I'm going to use it so I stuck with the 5mm. POE was $8 extra. I needed the IP rating too, shame the turret doesn't have it.
They've been good to deal with so far, but as I say, it hasn't even shipped yet.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3752-Hisilicon-Hi3516A-1-1-8-SONY-IMX178-Real-Time-5MP-Infrared-Onvif-Network-H/32430908046.html
Hope this doesn't mean it won't work with BI...
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I'm not a networking whiz, but I think I may be able to do some routing and VLAN magic to get the same client port on multiple clients to talk to different server ports on the same server. Good news is when I buy one, if we have an issue, we'll be in the same boat and can maybe put our heads together on a solution.