IPC-HDW5231R-ZE set to H.265. BI, Hardware acceleration when set to "default" works fine. Using either Intel or Intel + VPP (GPU set to ANY), video freezes (shows warning icon) and "seems" like reconnecting (timestamp changes after 10s or so on overlay-from camera not using BI overlay).
BlueIris Hardware acceleration issue with H.265
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Blue Iris has never gotten H.265 acceleration working with Intel.
Ok, that makes sense.
Next question, does BI motion detection work fine with H.265? I will also test this later on...
H.265 seems to be better at encoding with same quality and FPS at much lower bitrate (iow, better compression). So, I was thinking to use higher frame rate.
Ideally, I want 30fps at best quality possible. There is ample disk space (5 Tb) and if needed, will add more.
Next question, does BI motion detection work fine with H.265? I will also test this later on...
H.265 seems to be better at encoding with same quality and FPS at much lower bitrate (iow, better compression). So, I was thinking to use higher frame rate.
Ideally, I want 30fps at best quality possible. There is ample disk space (5 Tb) and if needed, will add more.
fenderman
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Perhaps I don't understand something here. Isn't 30fps full motion video (okay, ntsc 29.97...etc.)? Why wouldn't I want to have that? Resources not being an issue... (I7-8700k liquid cooled, 32GB ram, 250gb nvme for OS/apps, 6tb raid 0 for data), and it is not even overclocked.
yes, it is overkill for just BI, but I have other things planned to run on this.
All cameras set to 20mb buffer with continuous recording and motion detection, high resolution alerts. Again, I am NOT concerned about RAM, CPU or Disk usage. Right now with only 2 IPC-HDW5231R-ZE cameras, cpu is <6%, RAM <1GB.
Both running at VBR, 30fps/1.00fps, h.264, no bi overlays. And if usage goes up even further, No big deal in my books.
yes, it is overkill for just BI, but I have other things planned to run on this.
All cameras set to 20mb buffer with continuous recording and motion detection, high resolution alerts. Again, I am NOT concerned about RAM, CPU or Disk usage. Right now with only 2 IPC-HDW5231R-ZE cameras, cpu is <6%, RAM <1GB.
Both running at VBR, 30fps/1.00fps, h.264, no bi overlays. And if usage goes up even further, No big deal in my books.
fenderman
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Sorry, I was not aware you were filming a hollywood production. Its useless. Zero benefit over 15fps. You can lower your bitrate with 15fps and have much more storage. Higher is not always better.
You dont need a liquid cooled system for blue iris, was of money and energy.
Raid 0 is a bad idea as well. Simply spread the cameras evenly over the drives.
Running other things on your BI system is the biggest mistake you can make. Dedicate a machine for blue iris.
High resolution alerts are useless and a waste of space.
Well, it might as well be a Hollywood production 
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If you can, please elaborate why >15fps is of no benefit
.If you can, please elaborate why >15fps is of no benefit
fenderman
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because 15 captures everything you need. Start reading up on the subject, its been discussed to death on this forum. Its a typical newbie mistake.Well, it might as well be a Hollywood production
If you can, please elaborate why >15fps is of no benefit
Sorry guys, kept saying raid 0... I was always confused which number does what... anyway, in my case it is mirror. I think it is raid 1.
Two 6TB drives in one volume showing an effective storage of 5.xxTB after whatever is stored for raid config on the drives themselves...
They are mirrored so if one fails, the other retains data and I just hot swap with a new one.
Two 6TB drives in one volume showing an effective storage of 5.xxTB after whatever is stored for raid config on the drives themselves...
They are mirrored so if one fails, the other retains data and I just hot swap with a new one.
I haven't noticed any performance "hit" you mentioned... however, I should be candid and state that I haven't performed any disk performance tests prior to enabling raid and compare afterwards. It is Intel RST...
2 streams (more to be added soon):
With 1920x1080, H.265, 30fps/1.00fps, VBR-6, average data rate is around 300kbps per stream for most part and a little higher when motion or activity is present. CPU at 5%. RAM ~ 700Mb..
No -- playback tearing, missing frames, lag, performance issues etc.
I considered but in the end, decided not to send this rig on a satellite for a Pluto mission.
Efficiencies are not a concern for this particular system. Other boxes for other purposes yes, I do pay attention to that.
This works for me. Simple.
Next, virtual machines... yes!
2 streams (more to be added soon):
With 1920x1080, H.265, 30fps/1.00fps, VBR-6, average data rate is around 300kbps per stream for most part and a little higher when motion or activity is present. CPU at 5%. RAM ~ 700Mb..
No -- playback tearing, missing frames, lag, performance issues etc.
I considered but in the end, decided not to send this rig on a satellite for a Pluto mission.
Efficiencies are not a concern for this particular system. Other boxes for other purposes yes, I do pay attention to that.
This works for me. Simple.
Next, virtual machines... yes!
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hardware raid or software?
hardware a mirror actually preforms better than no raid, writes are done to both drives at the same time, but reads can be spread across both drives (so reads different things from each drive, since they're identical)
I tested out windows software raid (just for the hell of it) and it seamed to follow this too... but I don;t have any figgures to quote here
SouthernYankee
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Raid is a bad idea in a security system. A failure is next to impossible to recover from. Test it out remove a hard drive in a raid format it and put it back. Is how much fun it is to recover.
In blue iris just spread the cameras out over different drives. If you want redundecy use clone cameras.
In blue iris just spread the cameras out over different drives. If you want redundecy use clone cameras.
It may depend on which RAID (HW or SW) - I've done this in an enterprise environment many times and it isn't an issue. Replace a bum drive and there may be reduced performance while the drives sync but after that, back to normal.
+1 to above ^^
I can't speak for other forms of RAID. My setup uses Mirroring only and that's it.
Say I am on 2 week vacation (and as things should occur normally) a drive fails. If cameras are spread out across disks, maybe the front porch keeps recording but the backyard camera has no storage so no footage of a break-in for example. With Mirroring, you obviously avoid this.
I can't speak for other forms of RAID. My setup uses Mirroring only and that's it.
Say I am on 2 week vacation (and as things should occur normally) a drive fails. If cameras are spread out across disks, maybe the front porch keeps recording but the backyard camera has no storage so no footage of a break-in for example. With Mirroring, you obviously avoid this.
SouthernYankee
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Mikeynags
I have spent 20+ years in hardware and software for a fortune 5 company. It is a pain in the ass to recover a raid, Unless it is a big time hardware raid. Almost no home system system has that capability.
In a camera security system (BI) with the correct hardware disk drives and the correct redundant setup, a raid provides no increase in reliability, it actually increase the failure possibility. The more pieces you have the more thing can break.
recommended:
1) SD card in each camera
2) multiple WD purple drives in BI, different camera assigned to drives.
3) A dedicated NAS for backup for all cameras with near realtime write, at "remote location" (not near the BI machine,different room).
A long time ago , my manager, a company VP, indicated that if he could walk into the computer room and empty his 45 cal hand gun. The data better survive.
I have spent 20+ years in hardware and software for a fortune 5 company. It is a pain in the ass to recover a raid, Unless it is a big time hardware raid. Almost no home system system has that capability.
In a camera security system (BI) with the correct hardware disk drives and the correct redundant setup, a raid provides no increase in reliability, it actually increase the failure possibility. The more pieces you have the more thing can break.
recommended:
1) SD card in each camera
2) multiple WD purple drives in BI, different camera assigned to drives.
3) A dedicated NAS for backup for all cameras with near realtime write, at "remote location" (not near the BI machine,different room).
A long time ago , my manager, a company VP, indicated that if he could walk into the computer room and empty his 45 cal hand gun. The data better survive.
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Granted, backing up or IOW, basically "mirroring" the BI data to remote NAS drive is something I will implement after reading your post as it makes total sense to me. However, I am still trying to understand how actual disk mirroring in the same system "increases the failure possibility".