Thank you for the help. If you were starting over and buying everything new today. What cameras would you buy for a 6-7 cameras around the outside of the house as well as AVR? I don't have an extra computer so I was thinking about a POE AVR system. I would mostly use the system in the unfortunate event of any theft I would like to identify the person/persons so that was my desire for 8mp cameras. I would like to get text alerts and be able to quickly view the cameras remotely. Out of ignorance I purchased the new 4k Arlo ultra cameras and very quickly found all the flaws with those and quickly returned them. I am open to installing external motion activated lights if that is helpful for night. I live in a rural area so there should not be very many people except deliveries to the front porch. Many animals though (turkeys, deer, squirrels, etc.) so it would be nice to be able to differentiate between people and animals if possible on alerts. I was thinking of also backing up to the cloud as an extra safety. For the front door porch area it would be nice to have a microphone and speaker to interact with visitors. thank you for your help and expertise it is very much appreciated.