Help deciding between these two 4k Lorex systems or an alternative

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  1. mat200

    mat200 IPCT Contributor

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    Welcome @Jbird711

    There were numerous deals around Black Friday - Cyber Monday

    Other deals come around here and there

    Are you good with IT and IP addresses?
     
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    Did I read that correctly "8 LNB9232" cameras + NR9163X NVR for $1,100 ? I see that kit on the Lorex site for $2280 before any discounts.
    Were you referring to a different kit?

    I'm new here and currently shopping for a 4-6 camera system and looking at all options.

    Thanks,
     
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    Yes I am, I just returned a lorex 6 4k @15fs IP camera System to costco while I had the system I tried out one of the lorex lnb9232 nice cameras 4k @30 fs so now I need a system with a few of them and maybe with the 4x zoom lnb9272 ?. I'll keep looking for a deal
    Thx
     
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    Hi @ScooterGeo @Jbird711

    Remember the Lorex kits you see are typically Dahua OEM ( some are not, but in general the IP NVR kits I have seen on their website are Dahua OEM ).

    So my recommendation:
    1) do feel free to map the appropriate Lorex camera's and kits you like to an international Dahua OEM model.
    2) Contact Andy ( EmpireTecAndy ) and see what sort of deal he can provide you. ( unless Lorex has a great deal going on, he should be able to beat their prices most of the time imho )
    Remember, with Andy you will get cameras and NVRs which retain the Dahua IVS features, which are nice. Also note, you will need to pick up good quality cat5e/6 cable as Andy's cameras and NVR come without cables and HDDs. Normally works better for me as I like to use quality Bulk Cat5e/6 cable.
     
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    Thanks Mat, I was planning on running my own quality cable so I don't have to drill large holes and can customize the length. Any real advantage to the slightly more expensive and bulky CAT6E?

    I am currently placing an order with Andy for an NVR and a mix of cameras to test.
    Currently looking at getting the following:

    NVR NVR5208-8P-4KS2 or 16 channel version.
    IPC-HDW2231R-ZS
    IPC-HFW1831E 4.0 mm FL

    Also looking at the more pricey models :
    IPC-HDW5831R-ZE for an 8MP Turret
    IPC-HDW5231R-ZE for a feature rich turret
    IPC-HFW2831T-ZS - or -ZAS for sound

    Your recommendations and insights welcome. I have read the cliff notes, wiki's and looked at all the reviews and still undecided on some of the more pricey cameras. I would like sound in a couple of location and do like the zoom for fine tuning the field of view.

    Regards,
     
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    Yes, after scouring specifications from various rebranded systems from Lorex, Q-See, Swann (Hikvision) etc., it is very apparent that the rebranded units are dated and somewhat overpriced considering the inferior specifications.
    However, I must say that many of the rebranded models come with support warranty and sofware integration as a selling feature for most non tech savvy consumers. Things such as automatic push firmware updates, transparent ubiquitous NAT for remote access via an account etc.
     
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    Hi @ScooterGeo

    If you're going with the NVR, I recommend spending a bit more and getting the 16 channel version
     
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    Agreed!
    Not sure I will every have the need for 16 cameras, but you never know ;-)
    Other than more ePoe ports, it doesn't seem to be any hardware improvement between the entry level 8 and 16 channel units. I will have to research a bit more though.
    WRT to cameras: I looked at a number of camera reviews and can't seem to decide between the IPC-HDW2231R-ZS and the HPC-HDW4231EM-ASE which look like very good camera for about the same price.
    The 2231 has a brighter lens and zoom whereas the fixed lens 4231 has more IVA features, 60fps and 3 streams and a Mic.